tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post731554087078713977..comments2023-11-05T05:27:45.045-05:00Comments on Urban Myths: Rumors & Spin - It's Nicole Kidman's World and We Are Just Lucky to Live in It!Urban Mythshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06399903997896331986noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-41570232971379688152007-05-14T10:10:00.000-04:002007-05-14T10:10:00.000-04:00maclen said:"Of course, if you believe Urban got i...maclen said:<BR/>"Of course, if you believe Urban got into the marriage for the higher profile it would bring, it does not pre-suppose that its going to work in his favor.."<BR/>---------------------<BR/><BR/>Personally, I don't think he got into this marriage for the higher profile it would bring to his career, otherwise he would've capitalized on it - he hasn't. I think he got into this marriage because he actually did fall for her. I don't see where he has used this union once to his advantage which is why I truely believe he believes he's in love with her. He's demonstrating quite well the lengths he will go to to be with her - such as scheduling his tour so that he has 10 days off every few weeks to go and be with her. It's clear to me that he is making his relationship a priority, and skeptics can complain all they want about who does what in that relationship, what matters is that they are legitimately trying to have something. <BR/><BR/>Like her or hate her, she got herself a man who has no problem showing just how much he loves her.notachancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10119374355376493530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-70188809909048494782007-05-12T00:17:00.000-04:002007-05-12T00:17:00.000-04:00Of course, if you believe Urban got into the marri...Of course, if you believe Urban got into the marriage for the higher profile it would bring, it does not pre-suppose that its going to work in his music and career . A very non-subjective indicater would be cd sales. Doing a little quick research, according to wikipedia urbans first cd, Be Here, eventually sold 4 mill. His latest cd, Love, Pain & the whole crazy thing, at the 17th week mark of release has sold 1 mill. Can it sell another mill? Does it sell as many as his first cd? That I think would be a true indication of where he stands in his popularity with his previous fanbase.maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-36749518284195265162007-05-11T21:19:00.000-04:002007-05-11T21:19:00.000-04:00Perhaps that is why many of us are disillusioned? ...Perhaps that is why many of us are disillusioned? We actually fell for the Humble Pie that Keith was serving us?<BR/><BR/>After all...the pie recipe wasn't what we all thought, and now we're left with a nasty tase in our mouth!SkepticRNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15278559186255518627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-50721743794967974732007-05-11T18:09:00.000-04:002007-05-11T18:09:00.000-04:00Good Lord! The sky must be falling, because for o...Good Lord! The sky must be falling, because for once, I am going to agree with most of what notachance just said!<BR/><BR/>I have been around for a long time and I fell hook, line and sinker for his "Mr. Humble Pie" schtick. After what I have seen over the past year, the only thing that I can say is, "shame on me." I won't be making that mistake again.smellycathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06936251610132175388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-44078581347075771962007-05-11T15:43:00.000-04:002007-05-11T15:43:00.000-04:00wildangel said: "Whats worse, is that this might ...wildangel said: <BR/>"Whats worse, is that this might be the real Keith we are now seeing and I, like many, allowed ourselves to believe the image." <BR/>---------------------------------<BR/><BR/>I've long maintained that his Mr. Humble Pie image was just that - an image. I guess I must consider myself one of the lucky ones that I didn't know of him when he was very accessible and where that image emerged from. I came on board soley for the music. <BR/><BR/>Much has been said about previous relationships with him - it's very possible that it was HIS narcissism that ruined those relationships and that in meeting Nicole he'd finally found the one that could click in that regard, although I don't believe a relationship of that nature can survive, Hollywood has proven it time and time again.<BR/><BR/>I think Keith will continue to make his ok music. He still lacks in songwriting ability IMO and continues to make up for that in his guitar playing (I'll take it, don't get me wrong). Until the time he lives some life and allows himself to write about those other things in life, there's only so much love & leaving he can draw upon now for his inspiration.notachancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10119374355376493530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-68639972198055260062007-05-11T15:07:00.000-04:002007-05-11T15:07:00.000-04:00Maclen-At one time I would have said Keith is very...Maclen-<BR/>At one time I would have said Keith is very close to the image he portrayed but since he's been involved with her, Keith has changed and not in a good way. Many examples of the change are addressed in these blogs and as I see them written down, side by side, it sickens me that he has become more and more like her. Whats worse, is that this might be the real Keith we are now seeing and I, like many, allowed ourselves to believe the image. I am hoping that is not the case and he has been temporarily blinded by her status.wildangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593775128846102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-51034792598310969852007-05-11T13:03:00.000-04:002007-05-11T13:03:00.000-04:00wildangel said... "Maclen-very interesting article...wildangel said... <BR/>"Maclen-very interesting article. <BR/>Thanks for adding the link.<BR/>I think you are spot on with regard to your assessment of Nicole. Keith does have a lot of those traits as well." <BR/><BR/>Your welcome wildangel. The reason I posted it, other than I thought some members here may not have seen it, and might find it interesting, was it just adds to my personal opinion that celebs try to manipulate their image. Why? Because they are ultra narcissistic and are very concerned by how others perceive them . And also the usual back and fourth, the this is a photo op... no it isnt a photo op... that's what i believe... you have no business believing that, do not respond unless responded to.. get tiresome very quickly. Well, urban, from what others here who say they've followed his career, seem to believe he's been reined in and put on a short leash. Whats your opinion of him?maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-76012873454891194672007-05-11T07:36:00.000-04:002007-05-11T07:36:00.000-04:00Maclen-very interesting article. Thanks for adding...Maclen-very interesting article. <BR/>Thanks for adding the link.<BR/>I think you are spot on with regard to your assessment of Nicole. Keith does have a lot of those traits as well.wildangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17593775128846102037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-4818025736607893702007-05-10T19:13:00.000-04:002007-05-10T19:13:00.000-04:00...Glad you liked the article...Urban, I dont know......Glad you liked the article...<BR/><BR/>Urban, I dont know much about, except that he has some serious addiction problems, has a few hit country songs. I'm not into country music, so i cant talk to the quality of his music really. I find kidman to be irritatingly bland, dull and lacking in any personality what so ever, to merit the acclaim she's given in the industry. I find her to be, to my taste, a shameless advocate of her own fame and adulation, who will utilize the usual cliched hollywood charity "work " simply to promote their cultivated image. Now, are their other celebs who do it? of course, but I'll stick close to the purpose of this blog, and that may be a reiterated point, but I'm talking here, and I'll decide what I want to post. <BR/>thank you for your co-operation!maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-29475050090724910012007-05-10T16:03:00.000-04:002007-05-10T16:03:00.000-04:00Interesting article maclen, but it just reiterates...Interesting article maclen, but it just reiterates what we all already know. What it doesn't support is the media manipulation and the lengths of which y'all firmly believe these celebs resort to in order to feed their narcissism.notachancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10119374355376493530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-20502174162406914072007-05-10T13:13:00.000-04:002007-05-10T13:13:00.000-04:00I remember this study by Dr. Drew Pinksi on celebr...I remember this study by Dr. Drew Pinksi on celebrites, and I think it explains alot.<BR/>heres the link if your interested: http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/newsroom/news_release_detail.php?id=132<BR/><BR/>heres how it starts...<BR/><BR/>"Celebrities have more narcissistic personality traits than the general population, and people with narcissistic tendencies seem to be attracted to the entertainment industry rather than the industry creating narcissists, according to a groundbreaking study conducted by researchers Drew Pinsky of the Keck School of Medicine of USC and S. Mark Young of the USC Marshall School of Business and the USC Annenberg School for Communication."maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-40581411388032893702007-05-09T23:04:00.000-04:002007-05-09T23:04:00.000-04:00My goodness, now we have Tom & Nicole working toge...My goodness, now we have Tom & Nicole working together to manipulate the media. Do you realize just how STUPID that sounds? You make it seem like everything in their lives is a conspiracy to defraud the public of the real them. <BR/>......<BR/><BR/>Yes, now you understand how it works.<BR/>Artists must make the public believe what they say, they want us to love them, never question them so that we (the public) will buy the Tickets, to put money in their pocket.bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01953043690654072736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-28759344645111051752007-05-09T18:33:00.000-04:002007-05-09T18:33:00.000-04:00notachance said... "If my posts are whiny & shrill...notachance said... <BR/>"If my posts are whiny & shrill, I can't imagine what adjectives you will come up with the really whiny & shrill posts that are certain to come"..... <BR/><BR/>Now before i respond to this comment, notachance, you'll have to clarify it first. You see I cant make out by "what adjectives you will come up with the really whiny & shrill posts that are certain to come".... if your referring to your future posts, or if your trying to make some crack about my post? And you know I wouldn't want to assume... you know what happens when people assume?maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-90519189064540938362007-05-09T17:39:00.000-04:002007-05-09T17:39:00.000-04:00If my posts are whiny & shrill, I can't imagine wh...If my posts are whiny & shrill, I can't imagine what adjectives you will come up with the really whiny & shrill posts that are certain to come.....notachancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10119374355376493530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-68637718700562500552007-05-09T16:32:00.000-04:002007-05-09T16:32:00.000-04:00notachance, my point is if you are going to contin...notachance, my point is if you are going to continue to whine and become shrill over mods behaviour, other peoples opinions sounding stupid, or that you were not welcomed and thanked for being on the thread, you will be responded to in kind, believe me.<BR/>And thanks for the advice, but I will continue to respond to any post on this blog, for as long as I am able to, whether they are directed at me or not... if thats ok with you?maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-57052946104175937952007-05-09T14:17:00.000-04:002007-05-09T14:17:00.000-04:00maclen - I did not call perspone stupid, she is fa...maclen - I did not call perspone stupid, she is far from it. I said it sounded stupid. Big difference. And last I looked saying "GETALIFE" was NOT a personal attack, unlike your response to posts that were NOT directed at you, nor in response to you. And I try to make sure that none of my posts are personal attacks on other posters. You may call my response to the mod as personal, but I think someone who moderates should be held to a different standard than those of us that just post.notachancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10119374355376493530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-86824705150213342452007-05-09T14:06:00.000-04:002007-05-09T14:06:00.000-04:00Whitetrashcheeto, well i'd never even heard of urb...Whitetrashcheeto, well i'd never even heard of urban before he hooked up with kidman. Being that he is just on the "scene", up and coming, people are going to beleive he's just trying to marry into a higher profile. In my opinion, yeah i beleive he wants to be a typical showbusiness celeb. But also, knowing he has a serious addiction/alcohol problem, its hard to believe in this situation, he's concerned with anything else really other than just trying to stay sober. And i believe like alot of people here, kidman is more concerned about her movie career, and trying to keep that going, and will try and manipulate her personal life for it.<BR/><BR/>notachance said:<BR/>"Well, now you've made it perfectly clear that dissenting opinion is not anything you are interested in - even though it is the REAL lifeblood of your blog as it spurs discussion (and a lot of times attacks from your followers)."<BR/><BR/>Dissenting opinion is on thing, but hurling personal insults...<BR/>"Do you realize just how STUPID that sounds?"<BR/>"My God - GETALIFE!"<BR/><BR/>...which you said to Perspone, in this post, is no way to foster healthy debate. And i dont see an "attack" by perspone at you in that post. If you want respect or just a little bit of common courtesy, you should try offering a little of it yourself.maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-87510501461825150812007-05-09T10:22:00.000-04:002007-05-09T10:22:00.000-04:00urbanmyths wrote:"Maclen, you are a most welcome a...urbanmyths wrote:<BR/>"Maclen, you are a most welcome addition to our little blog, mate. Thanks for joining us with your perspective. <BR/>May 8, 2007 10:52 PM"<BR/>--------------------<BR/><BR/>Well, now you've made it perfectly clear that dissenting opinion is not anything you are interested in - even though it is the REAL lifeblood of your blog as it spurs discussion (and a lot of times attacks from your followers). I have never seen you welcome someone with an opposing view. You skeptics all wear blinders and are not open to anything but your own opinion. Your blog would be quite boring without us dissenters. The moderator should be just that - moderate and accepting of all opinions as it facilitates a common goal - in this case some truth. It's now obvious that truth is not anything you seek.notachancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10119374355376493530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-69791241382362063712007-05-09T08:49:00.000-04:002007-05-09T08:49:00.000-04:00"You make some excellent points here amelia. I've ..."You make some excellent points here amelia. I've given my own opinion that I find it pretty suspicious these family outings come after some "hardships" in their marriage, or again, some perceived problems in the marriage. And only time will tell if its an actual pattern. And I find it ludicrous that posters at this blog will actually admit that, yes, celebs will do "some photo ops and some planted PR stories"...yet they keep coming back to deny that EVERY latest story is just not one of them!"<BR/><BR/>You're absolutely wrong about that! I'm making generalizations, an opinion based on what I've read here and elsewhere...as are you! But my point is that yes, Nicole does use the media to her advantage, but you'd have to be blind to see that keith's doing the same. I don't care for her, but Keith ain't no saint either. There are times when stars are just going about their business while the paps are lurking in the bushes, but there are other times it's intentional. ou make it seem like the whole charade is Nicole's undoing. I find it hard to believe Keith wouldn't be a part of that too - if indeed is what's going on.Whitetrashcheetohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02851872877222325203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-15350311567192747852007-05-08T23:12:00.000-04:002007-05-08T23:12:00.000-04:00Urban Myths said... "Maclen, you are a most welcom...Urban Myths said... <BR/>"Maclen, you are a most welcome addition to our little blog, mate. Thanks for joining us with your perspective."<BR/><BR/>Thanks urban myths, glad to be here, I really like your work. People have different interpretations on <BR/>everything, and I just like to give my two cents.<BR/>... oh yeah, sorry about that double post!maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-40040069953563482632007-05-08T22:52:00.000-04:002007-05-08T22:52:00.000-04:00Maclen, you are a most welcome addition to our lit...Maclen, you are a most welcome addition to our little blog, mate. Thanks for joining us with your perspective.Urban Mythshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06399903997896331986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-77585393738346177312007-05-08T22:51:00.000-04:002007-05-08T22:51:00.000-04:00amelia said:"No, you are correct, not everything i...amelia said:<BR/>"No, you are correct, not everything is. But most, in regard to Nicole, is. When she wants to disappear and live her everyday life, she is perfectly capable. Like when she spends all that time with her children that isn't photographed."<BR/><BR/>You make some excellent points here amelia. I've given my own opinion that I find it pretty suspicious these family outings come after some "hardships" in their marriage, or again, some perceived problems in the marriage. And only time will tell if its an actual pattern. And I find it ludicrous that posters at this blog will actually admit that, yes, celebs will do "some photo ops and some planted PR stories"...yet they keep coming back to deny that EVERY latest story is just not one of them!maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-45360017134925643642007-05-08T22:36:00.000-04:002007-05-08T22:36:00.000-04:00amelia said:"No, you are correct, not everything i...amelia said:<BR/>"No, you are correct, not everything is. But most, in regard to Nicole, is. When she wants to disappear and live her everyday life, she is perfectly capable. Like when she spends all that time with her children that isn't photographed." <BR/><BR/>You make some excellent points here amelia.maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-14822941460293878012007-05-08T21:31:00.000-04:002007-05-08T21:31:00.000-04:00"You make it seem like everything in their lives i..."You make it seem like everything in their lives is a conspiracy to defraud the public of the real them."<BR/> <BR/><BR/>LOL. That is exactly what celebs do! That is how Hollywood works.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>"Believe it or not, these "stars" do live everyday lives of their sort without thought to how it is perceived by us."<BR/><BR/>Some stars do - but those stars don't have 3 page spreads in tabs all over the world or make the front page of their homeland's newspapers while living "their everyday lives".<BR/><BR/>We see exactly what they want us to see.<BR/><BR/>And if you think differently, then it appears the PR is working on some. And that is the whole point.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>"While I agree that there are some photo ops and some planted PR stories - not everything is that way as you would have us believe."<BR/><BR/><BR/>No, you are correct, not everything is. But most, in regard to Nicole, is. When she wants to disappear and live her everyday life, she is perfectly capable. Like when she spends all that time with her children that isn't photographed.ameliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06607975647035916448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2615839992616992011.post-26218900111990780652007-05-08T14:45:00.000-04:002007-05-08T14:45:00.000-04:00whitetrashcheeto said: "Setting up a photo op for ...whitetrashcheeto said:<BR/> "Setting up a photo op for a Hollywood star is old news - it's been done since the beginning of the movie era. Why is it just now bothering you? Well, because it involves Keith. Get over it."<BR/><BR/>For starters, how the hell would you know that it just now started to bother me? Or for that matter, when it started to bother me. And just FYI, so you wont ignorantly and arrogantly post what i think again, I have no problem that urban was involved, its kidman i have a probem with. Dont put words in my mouth.. i dont know where your hands have been!<BR/><BR/>notachance said:<BR/>"Do you realize just how STUPID that sounds?"<BR/>"My God - GETALIFE!"<BR/><BR/>Yes, your typical celeb. fanclub member response. Would that apply to you? So insightful and persuasive, that really shuts us all up, doesnt it.maclenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04955283353584596594noreply@blogger.com