It has been two weeks since the heavens opened and little Sunday Rose Urban came unto the earth. Since that time we have seen the parents shopping for a mattress and at Starbucks. Nicole, you just aren't pulling this off very well. Keith, baby, we also have some advice for you. Don't associate the young baby with Raining on Sunday. That song is about raw, hot, steamy, all day long sex. Don't tie your sweet baby girl into the lyrics. That is creepy in a very weird way. Secondly, if you are going to talk about her, show off her photo.
Everything you have done in this entire relationship has been about money: the expensive ring that Kidman bought for the engagement; the designer wedding with a price tag of close to a million; expensive trips; and that plane that she owns. Then you have all the real estate. How many mansions is it going to take to admit you don't really have roots anywhere? But one thing to note about the houses is that they are all so big and so isolated that no one is really going to know who is there and for how long. Interesting isn't it? Are you even staying in the same house? It's still all about fame and money. Keith, just like smoking crack, fame and money, while nice to have, are just as much an addiction.
As for London, I am sure they are all going to be living there and getting into the "London Scene". They are such hipsters that Carnaby Street and the punk hangouts might have an allure. But those places, much like Kidman's film career, are gone… never to return. Speaking of gone and never to return - I wonder if come September Kidman will take one long last look at Nashville? There is always hope.
Everything you have done in this entire relationship has been about money: the expensive ring that Kidman bought for the engagement; the designer wedding with a price tag of close to a million; expensive trips; and that plane that she owns. Then you have all the real estate. How many mansions is it going to take to admit you don't really have roots anywhere? But one thing to note about the houses is that they are all so big and so isolated that no one is really going to know who is there and for how long. Interesting isn't it? Are you even staying in the same house? It's still all about fame and money. Keith, just like smoking crack, fame and money, while nice to have, are just as much an addiction.
As for London, I am sure they are all going to be living there and getting into the "London Scene". They are such hipsters that Carnaby Street and the punk hangouts might have an allure. But those places, much like Kidman's film career, are gone… never to return. Speaking of gone and never to return - I wonder if come September Kidman will take one long last look at Nashville? There is always hope.
65 comments:
I do agree with UM about leaving Sunday Rose out of ROS. It is creepy, even by anyone in the "arts" standards.
I don't know if I agree about the fame & money addiction, or if it's just that we need to face facts about this new life that he is able to live. A life that none of us can completely fathom. Keith is part of a select number of people on this planet that live like that - the fact that we don't know, personally, people like that makes it very hard to comprehend and wish him well in it.
For me, he just ruined a great song.....talk about poor taste
off topic JJ has new starbucks pics up.....gee, do they look happy...not. btw just checked and couldn't pull them up on JJ now....very interesting.
try this link
http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/nicole-kidman-and-keith-urban-starbucks-sweethearts-204931/
Yes, interesting take on the glut of real estate purchases, Urban myths... and not having roots no matter how many mansions they buy! But it's pretty hard to establish roots when they are at the same moment buying in cali, tennessee and Oz. Kind of defeats the purpose... but then again how much time will they stay at each of them... yeah doublewide, saw the photo ops at JJ last night... and today lainey has the most recent versions. Interesting to me, and I commented last night on the previous thread... about how all the gossip sites seems to be missing how depressed kidman is looking, which makes me wonder if she is suffering from postpartum depression...she is looking down in the dumps... and as I mentioned, she is not having a great PR run with this pr pregnancy....lainey mentions sources that even the Aussie mags are saving there covers for the brangelina twins...and again, the oh so usual thought that having a kid would magically solve all professional or personal issues is a false assumption..... And Ive already taken dibbs on any kidman postpartum PR headlines... so lay off my territory! Just kidding....or am I?
maclen - never saw someone so happy to be wishing postpartum depression on anyone as much as you. Not cool at all.
As for the pic's and her not happy in them - they are only a snapshot in time, and who knows how many others were taken that are not being shown in order to get the bloggers point across.
Ha... hilton is back again with another mocking kidman post...even pulled out his E-white out pen:
http://perezhilton.com/2008-07-21-wheres-her-belly#respond...kidman
kidman does look pretty out of it...she must be lightheaded from endless workouts and lack of food... (and that starbucks coffee is great for her figure, apparently).. but whatever it takes for the PR...
Nic better shape up quick, Keith is used to underwear models.
,,,ps...
...and here is another phony planted story to go with the recent zombie-fied photo op...
http://www.showbizspy.com/showbiz/07212008/nicole-kidmans-adopted-kids-meet-sunday-rose
...well, they are a week later from the phoney plant they put in her fawnsite...isnt anyone in inept team kidman even keeping an eye on this stuff? As I speculated, it must be "crisis control mode" confusion over at ITK... the daft defenders here at UM are suspiciously absent again!...wink wink...nudge nudge....
So is that why Nic had to get out on Sunday morning to Starbucks? Too many kids in the house?
undecided said...
"So is that why Nic had to get out on Sunday morning to Starbucks? Too many kids in the house?"
..well, no undecided, just one...but that's enough to get her already seemingly frazzled nerves dashing for Starbucks...and caffeine...or the mattress shop... or the restaurant...anywhere but whatever house her new kid is in... she looks dazed and confused already...
She shouldn't have had it planted about the older kids visiting Nashville at the same time she's out for a photo op with Keith, then.
...ps...
back again! (I promise...this will be my last comment today...no matter what!)
...ahhhh, great point undecided...phoney planted story debunked already.
So anyways...contrast and compare kidmans lame and as usual first sighting photo ops to angelina jolies...
http://bauergriffinonline.celebuzz.com/2008/07/brangelina-go-greek.php
..what are the biggest differences between the two? Biggest door price for the most perceptive observances!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,387021,00.html
By Roger Friedman
"Last week, I mentioned in this space a couple of times that Nicole Kidman’s older kids had not yet visited her or met half-sister baby Sunday. However, I am assured by Kidman’s rep that Connor and Isabella have had at least some kind of visit to Nashville, where Kidman lives with husband Keith Urban."
I don't buy it. Connor was in LA Sat the 12 for a flying lesson and at the espy awards Wed the 16th. Keith had a show Sat the 19th. I doubt the teens stayed home with the nanny while they went to Starbucks Sun the 20th. I also doubt, with Keith & Nic being "followed by the paps" again that they could get the kids in and out of town, even for a one day visit, without pictures. No way would Kidman miss that photo op if they were really there.
The kids left LA when Kidman came to town for the Oscar's and didn't see her then. Why would they want to waste summer vacation time traveling to visit a "mom" they never see, has gushed over "finally becoming a mom" and having "a biological baby" and making them feel neglected and unwanted. "Mom" got remarried and abandoned them. They have every right to remember than and refuse to see her when she wants photo ops.
I just added this blog to UM's favorite blog list... check it out!
http://autumninhollyweird.blogspot.com/2008/07/uckanother-monday-another-kidman-rant.html
If that link doesn't work it is in the column on the right...
Connor and Bella were in Nashville. The poster over at NKU said it was the same afternoon and the pics of KUNK (the ones with NK in a white top) were in the parking garage. There is a parking garage near the Whole Foods. My guess is they got food while Keith and Nicole went and looked at mattresses. Connor being at the ESPYS was on a totally different day. And with Cruise's access to a non-commercial flight this would be no problem. I never expected the kids to be there long, Cruise would never allow it. With his career in the toilet he's keeping an even tighter leash on his entire family.
Nothing to say really on this latest entry Umyths. Just more whining and complaining that Keith and Nicole are still together. Hearing you long for the old punk scene in London is just as boring as hearing you long for this marriage to be over.
Oh..right. Tommy prevents the kids from staying with NK and she has no recourse even though the court documents say she can have them 50% of the time. Not buying it.
They don't want to spend time with her. I wouldn't doubt they flew in, saw the baby and flew out the next day because Tom said to. He doesn't want the bad press saying he "keeps the kids" from Kidman.
She abandoned the kids to pursue her own career and to find a man. Now they don't really care to spend time with her. I think she likely wants to see them from time to time...but it's too late. They're old enough now to make up their own minds.
If they were there, it was because Tommy made them go and see NK and the baby. That's what I think.
Imahick said...
"Now they don't really care to spend time with her. I think she likely wants to see them from time to time...but it's too late. They're old enough now to make up their own minds."
I believe that as well. I have a feeling that maybe in the future we may see a book published by one of them.
They do have their own mind, and maybe they just don't feel the love.
Out and about in Nashville, were is little Suro ? No one will see that kid until they hit Australia, then we will see family pictures galore. Nic must be out of her mind with rage, not getting the highest price for her little princess. Keith he doesn't care he just adds her name in on the end of a song. He'll take fame any way he can get it.
"Little suro"!...not bad blogger....how does "little Suray" sound? so kidman is back to ultra photo op mode again... another tired and moldy... stale and stiff work out photo op from GG... she cant get out of whatever house "little suray" is in fast enough to get back in front of her paps cameras. Is it more important to her to show off her already missing bump than to have people believe she even cares to be spending time with the kid? Considering her PR pregnancy was a bust... she needs to try and flame the already distinquised pr attention. I wouldn't expect anything less from kidman.
No way in hell she gave birth to Sunday....no way. There is not a soul on this planet that would be at yoga 2 weeks post partum......... let alone no doctor would say it's ok.
Belly shirt, white pants?
WHITE PANTS?
Umm.. not to be gross but that's a dangerous proposition.
Talk about a potential wardrobe malfunction...
IF one really delivered the baby.
I had believed that NK was pregnant, but now that I have seen all this activity...these outings...since the birth, I really doubt that she DID deliver a baby.
She does NOT look like someone who just birthed a baby...and don't tell me that she took care of herself during the pregnancy. If she ever was pregnant, she obviously ate a very minimalist diet and obsessively exercised, so that she can get back into shape in a short time frame FOR HER CAREER. It had little to do with this baby, as it appears she is still obsessed with being in shape for her new role in NINE.
The fact she is out and about, as if nothing has happened in her life, tells me that she hasn't got a maternal bone in her body. If she was so concerned about starting yoga up again, why not get an instructor into her home and start up? No...she had to leave her newborn and attend a yoga class.
In my opinion, the child now outside was NEVER inside NK. Some day the surrogate / birth mom will expose this fraud. Why not just admit that you are using a surrogate or adopting in the first place? It was very important to NK to project the correct image of a maternal figure...because of Suri. Her competition with her X is so obvious.
Why Keith went along with this is beyond me. But it's a new low, if he knew this was all fake. Maybe he is as close to NK as it appears in most of the pictures. By that, I mean, it looks like the only time they touch is for the paps.
The boobs certainly looked a little bigger in those yoga pic's, so...............
I knew a gal years ago that had her kid on a Sunday, was wearing her size 0 jeans on Monday and was out & about 4 days later and had very little bleeding to speak of after the first week.
Face it, NK had the perfect pregnancy and delivery. The only thing that wasn't perfect, is her boobs didn't get big, as she'd hoped that they would. I mean, that was her focus in terms of being pregnant if you remember right...that she'd get big boobs.
She didn't gain any weight. Never had any swelling. Never had any complications other than the "severe morning sickness". She had a short labor, a quick delivery (I read that her trainer said she only had to push six times ... it's her FIRST baby...that's quite remarkable), was out of the hospital in less than 24 hrs, was out and about within 4 days and is back to yoga in 2 wk.
She looks skinnier than she did before she was pregnant. She obviously isn't bleeding heavily. She's a freakin' miracle. In fact, it's just so darn perfect, it's hard to believe.
Imahick...would you even say it's like an "Immaculate Conception?" No doubt kidman believes these daily photo ops will make her the talk of the town...but more than likely, it will just feed into all the rumors and whispers of surrogates... donor eggs and prostetics making it seem pretty much more believable to the average and passive observer that it really is what it was... just a pr ploy for attention. It will certainly make all her overblown and self proclaimed "past problems" look like typical celeb spin and revisionist story telling for the far more interesting magazine blurbs that they simply are.
"maclen said...
...would you even say it's like an "Immaculate Conception?" No doubt kidman believes these daily photo ops will make her the talk of the town...but more than likely, it will just feed into all the rumors and whispers of ..."
Yeah, you have been busy sending your made-up stories to the likes of Ted C., Perez and Lainey. Huh! I'm sure it was you who fed Ted C, with the Virgin Mary/Immaculate Conception bit. I wonder how much they are paying you. Interesting setup you got there:
- You make up a story, then send it to Ted/Lainey/Perez.
- Then they'll post that on their site.
- You turn around and use that to rant and rave about it here.
- You get paid. And they get more hits on their website.
Interesting!
Well, it looks like even they are not interested in all of your stories. So, you simply post them here anyway
Ha...pot black. Sonora ... Wendy or is it Cindy? Sure...go after the posters. Like we feed Perez and Lainey info? You should adjust the dose of your medication to help control your delusions.
Even you can't defend a new mother going out to lunch 4 days post delivery, out to two movies within two weeks of the birth, out mattress shopping within 9 days, out for lunch again within 2 wk and now back to yoga. It's ludicrious but it's also a reflection of the self absorption and lack of any semblance of maternal instincts that Kidman has.
So...go ahead. Ridicule the posters. Even you must know that NK's post partum activities are NOT even close to what any other normal mother's would be.
She's experienced pregnancy & birth...which was all Kidman wanted out of this. Unfortunately there is a consequence to that experience...a baby. But when you have NK's money, you just pay people to take care of the child...so you aren't inconvenienced. I feel so sad for this little girl. NK will neglect Sunday like she neglected her first two. No wonder they don't want to spend time with her.
People plant. http://www.people.com/people/article/
0,,20213937,00.html
Cj, I think when you "return" that link midway through to get it all in view, your causing a space in between and copy and pasting it doesnt work... just FYI...
Yes, that press release from people.com of course has the opposite effect of its intended purpose... by documenting all the "activity", it's making kidman and the orb already seeming like neglectful parents for their abnormal need for constant fixes of caffeine and restraunts and matress shops... for the photo ops... and who knows what else...next I expect a visit to Dollywood! But I expect the scheduled photo ops from inept team kidman with JJ, GG and People.com to continue...and gleefully, I say keep them coming dimwits...
So the baby is 2 weeks old and she's already drug her to Calif. so she can go to yoga?
If I was the surrogate, I'd get the baby back. Then again she can't be a good mom either for selling crazy ass KUNK her baby.
maclen, if I don't do the return the link gets cut off and doesn't work. With the return you might have to do 2 cut and pastes but at least it works.
I'm seriously thinking of going to NKU and telling Nicole to go home and take care of her newborn. All the people story did was try to cover butt. "Now Keith rushes in and gets to go instead of settling in at a table." Here's a thought: get a coffee pot and make it at home. Do workout tapes at home. Watch movies on demand at home. We already think you are a horrible mother. Stop giving us ammo. The photo ops aren't helping you so you might as well knock them off.
From NKU: "Seen in the City: Keith Urban at Panera in Green Hills
By Brad - July 21st, 2008 - 3:19 pm
Keith Urban took a break from daddy duty to go to the Mall at Green Hills.
And it looks like Nashville is still a place where country stars can wander among us with no problems. (Unless you call the paps and tell them where to meet you.)
Keith walked into Panera Bread around 1:20 p.m. and ordered his Mediterranean Veggie sandwich with just a few stares.
Then he sat at a table by himself at ate it. WACKY! Just like a normal person!"
lol. It's been so long since I even signed in to NKU they deleted my account. When I went to reregister I got the message "The board administrator is no longer accepting any new registrations at the moment." I guess too many newbies were speaking negatively about their queen.
CJ said...
"maclen, if I don't do the return the link gets cut off and doesn't work. With the return you might have to do 2 cut and pastes but at least it works."
Atually, cj the complete link is there, the other half is just not seen, but its there...
For example, this link...
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20213937,00.html
...ends at article/...right? But if you begin to highlight the link to copy it...just keep moving your curser past the article/, and the page will move left... and the entire link can be seen... it's just that Ive noticed in the past some commenters had problems with links posted this way. Hope this is helpful to other commenters not aware?
...yeah these continuing stories of how kidman and the orb cant get out of the house enough is truly showing how they are not ready for true parenthood. It's one thing to be pregnant and get the headlines... but once the kid is here, that's where the true dedication is...and they want to be anywhere but wherever this kid is....
Putting an APB out for Zoe....
Wonder if you have any scoop about the Friday night showing of The Dark Knight at the Green Hills mall...
"No way in hell she gave birth to Sunday....no way. There is not a soul on this planet that would be at yoga 2 weeks post partum......... let alone no doctor would say it's ok."
Let's get one thing clear here. Giving birth is part of NATURE. It is NATURAL, and it is NOT an illness that needs to be "cured".
This is NOT Victorian times. You don't order women to get to bed, serving them red wine and bloody steaks.
If you are very athletic, like Nicole, it is not strange at all to return to your active life style quickly. She is physically strong and healthy. There is no reason why she should not go out at times, doing ordinary things and continuing with her exercise and yoga at a pace that suits her.
Why can't you delusional, sad beings understand that she gave birth and that she is happily married to Keith, and more than likely will stay that way for the foreseeable future? It's pathetic and sick.
Are your lives really that empty? Do you need to invent mystery and conspiracies since the truth is too dull and painful? Most likely.
karolyn...you are the delusional one if you think it's Victorian for a Mother to want to be with her newborn. That's called MATERNAL INSTINCT. Most normal women have it. NK appears to be too self absorbed and career driven to have developed any maternal feelings toward Sunday Rose. She's bored with her, by the looks of it and so, can't be bothered to stay home like most women.
No other mother that I know would be out to lunch four days after birth, to two movies in two weeks, out mattress shopping, out for coffee and lunch and out for yoga within 2 wk of the birth of their baby..the baby they'd yearned for all their adult lives.
The obsessive exercising was all about staying in shape for NINE so that as soon as the child inside was outside, she could shed that weight and get back into shape for work.
If she loves to stare at Sunday Rose so much, why not stay home and bond? It's all for show with NK. Fortunately, she can afford a good Nanny, who hopefully will give the baby the sense of security and love that she'll need.
I'm really disappointed in how this is going down. I had hoped that NK would redeem herself and show that she isn't as selfish as she appeared to be when Connor and Bella were small.
"karolyn...you are the delusional one if you think it's Victorian for a Mother to want to be with her newborn. That's called MATERNAL INSTINCT. Most normal women have it. NK appears to be too self"
Since when does going out at times, doing ordinary things and keeping yourself in shape, mean you have no maternal instincts? Are you serious? You spend too much time imagining things and too little time thinking straight. LOL
Unless you know her personally you have no clue how much time she spends with her child. By the look of her face recently I think she spends a lot of time with Sunday. She looks tired and pale, even for her.
Wow...karolyn. We obviously have very different standards for what is acceptable for a new mother. Most new Mom's don't have any desire to be out and about as much as NK has been...and we have pictures to prove she's been out and about.
Sorry. There's no way that after a life changing experience like giving birth and bringing a new life into the world, that a normal woman would want to resume their normal routines as if nothing has changed. NK is so focused on this new movie, she has resumed her pre-Sunday life as if she was nothing more significant than getting a new car.
Sorry...I wouldn't have been out for lunch four days after having a baby...I would not have wanted to leave that baby nor would I have. As for attending a movie...are you kidding me? Within two weeks of bringing a new baby home? Seriously...the woman's cold as ice.
Speaking as someone who has experienced getting pregnant the first time I tried as opposed to staying pregnant the second time longer than 12 weeks, seven years later...I too am confused at the actions of Nicole. The first time, everything went just like it was suppose, the second time however...was quite a bit more difficult. So...when it finally did happen and I finally did believe that I was not going to miscarry as I had done 3 times before, I was euforiac. I was nothing but happy about being pregnant. Fat and I mean very big boobs and all. My nephew and niece tried to get me to the guinness book of records for my boobs...no lie. I had a bra hand altered in a size 40T, yes T. It cost $90 and was well worth the money. My question into the the truth of this pregnancy and baby lies with her actions. There is NO way that I would have left my brand new baby that I worked so very hard for, to go to lunch, yoga or anything thing else that had to do with me. I did however have to take my daughter to summer school one week after the birth...just 1/2 mile down the road, was a killer to load everybody in the car to drive 1/2 mile to drop a little girl off only to have to do the same thing to pick her up 3 hours later. Had she not need the extra work desprately, I surely would not have done it. so to me her actions do speak louder than words ever could. It appears to me that little Sunday Rose will forever be wondering who her mother really is. Which is very sad indeed!
karolyn-
I dont care how "in shape" she was, if she delivered via c-section (which in one of the pics I saw what looked like a faint scar) then NO DOCTOR would approve Yoga after two weeks. No way. If she delivered vaginaly again NO DOCTOR would recommend Yoga after two weeks. Again I dont care how in shape she was, and how well she kept herself up. It's not about being Victorian, why would you even suggest that. It's about being a mother. Why the hell does she need to go out to lunch, movies, matress shopping, yoga, and for coffee all within two weeks of giving birth to her FIRST baby that she had to wait 40+ years for, that she wanted so badly she couldnt stop talking about? I promise you if I had gone through all she CLAIMED to go through I'd be at home holding that baby 24-7 and forming a bond that could never be broke. You're right I dont know her personally, so I cant have the whole picture, but the pictures I do have do nothing to reassure me she's enjoying her new role as a mother.
Think what you will karolyn and I'll think what I will it doesnt make me delusional, pathetic, or any of the other adjectives you want to hurl at me. In fact I'd say it's you and others who continue to insult the rest of us that need to take a good look at your life. So I ask you, is your life so sad and empty you need to be a bully on the internet?
As for the yoga after two weeks, a doctor would release for limited yoga if you were in top physical shape. Nicole is obviously in top physical shape. She wasn't going to do anything extreme, she's working her way back into it.
Does anyone recall the woman who ran a marathon months after giving birth? She went right back into training within two weeks of giving birth. Every body is different, and we all bounce back from childbirth in our own way depending on our physical fitness.
nota-
Whatever....I disagree. I will state again it doesnt matter TO ME that she was in (as you say) top physical shape, it is my belief that any resonable doctor would recommend to any new mother who has the history Nicole claims to have to spend the time bonding with their new baby and give their body time to heal emotionally, physically, and mentally before going out on the town as Nicole has. I know personally I have a very similar history to Nicole, and went through even more and I would never dream of doing the things she has done and for the record Im not a fat couch potato myself.....I had no desire to get back to my pilates and yoga two weeks after. All I wanted to do was hold my miracle and relax. Too bad Nicole doesnt want the same, she doesnt know what she's missing.
"I will state again it doesnt matter TO ME that she was in (as you say) top physical shape, it is my belief that any resonable doctor would recommend to any new mother who has"
"their new baby and give their body time to heal emotionally, "
Heal?? I didn't know there was anything wrong with her. That's your own assumption.
For the record, people "heal" in different ways. Some want peace and relaxation, others need some kind of activity..I'd say most people do, actually. Healing and passivity are not the same thing.
Who says she's not bonding with her child? Shopping for a mattress, having coffee and doing yoga don't prevent people from bonding with each other. LOL
You also seem to conveniently forget that infants spend a lot of their time sleeping.
"I know personally I have a very similar history to Nicole, and went through even more and I would never dream of doing the things she has done and for the record Im not"
Well, that's you, not her. Your way isn't the only way or the right way, just because you wish it to be.
"a fat couch potato myself.....I had no desire to get back to my pilates and yoga two weeks after. All I wanted to do was hold my miracle and relax. "
And I'm sure she's doing exactly that when she returned with her matterss. LOL
"Too bad Nicole doesnt want the same, she doesnt know what she's missing."
Missing? That's your own imagination at work.
She is strong, healthy and copes very well. Good for her.
"I will state again it doesnt matter TO ME that she was in (as you say) top physical shape, it is my belief that any resonable doctor would recommend to any new mother who has"
Doctors recommend activity when possible. Passivity is old school medicine. It can actually worsen a lot of conditions.
People here must understand that YOUR way of life is NOT the best way, the only way or the right way. It is YOUR way, period.
Stop judging other people on ridiculous grounds, unless you wish to be judged yourselves. You are so eager to slam her that you grasp for straws. It is truly sad to see.
Who says that being with a newly born infant 24/7 is the right way? They need time alone too, and they need lots of sleep. Smothering a child is not the right way.
Being there for her as much as possible is good, but a mother needs time for herself at times, as well.
Neglecting herself is not beneficial for the baby. She can afford a nanny to look after Sunday when she is out of the house for an hour or two. So what?
Seems like good old-fashioned envy and a need to attack no matter what are the main things at work on this hate site.
Karolyn-
Laugh at me all you want, it's my belief, which is shared by many others. Your laughing and insults are totally rude, and really unneccessary all you have to say is you dont agree, you dont need to insult me because I believe in something different.
You're right what worked for me, and what I did might not work for Nicole, and might not be what she does, that doesnt mean I cant talk about it with other people who share my feelings. If Nicole was a friend of mine, I'd be doing this very same thing with our other friends.........in fact I'd say it to her as well.
As for healing Karolyn dont be so naive, everyone needs to heal in many ways after giving birth, it doesnt imply anything is wrong with Nicole, but giving birth brings on a lot of things, I never once implied anything was wrong with Nicole, dont add words where there arent.
I dont forget what infants do, but I also remember some of my best memories of the early weeks were sleeping next to my new little miracle, or laying and watching her chest rise and fall because I was so excited and wanted to be there for every little breath she took.
Just because you idolize her doesnt mean my way (as you call it) is the wrong way either. I never said she was wrong for what she is doing, personally I think it is sad she feels the need to go out and do all of those things when they can be done from the comfort of her home. She can easily pay someone to go get her coffee, and come into her home for Yoga.....she's not going out for the people because she just blows past them, so why not be at home?!
Doctors also recommend rest, it's not old school like you want to believe or have others believe. I understand every doctor is different, as is every person, but I would be willing to bet no doctor would recommend FULL YOGA class two weeks after birth. A few poses here and there (which could be done at home) sure, but not a full class.
Again Karolyn, this is what I believe, this is my way of living. Knock it off with the insults, you dont have to agree with me, but you also dont have to be so rude about it.
Karolyn-
Calm down for crying out loud.....like I said if Nicole was my friend I'd be saying the same thing.
You need to realize we are totally allowed to do what we're doing here. There are no laws being broken, no crimes being committed. If you dont like what you read, DONT READ IT!!!!!!!! It's really simply, if this site gets you in such a tizzy DONT COME HERE.
Nobody ever said stop doing NORMAL things. What she is doing is not normal.
Again I've asked multiple people the same question....why do you continue to come here if all you find is ill-informed, closed-minded and pathologically negative freaks.
Again I've asked you many times to stop with the insults. All is does is make you look like a total bitch. Talk about judgeing Karolyn.....that's just silly for you to come down on anyone when you've thrown some pretty harsh names at people here. Sounds to me like someone need to practice what they preach, dont you realize how stupid you sound when you say dont judge her, or try to hurt her you close minded ill informed pathologically negative freaks?! Judge much Karolyn?!
"Sorry. There's no way that after a life changing experience like giving birth and bringing a new life into the world, that a normal woman would want to resume their normal routines as if nothing has changed."
Sorry, you're wrong. Normal persons do continue doing ordinary things after big life changes. Bringing a child to the world is a beautiful and incredible experience. It doesn't mean you stop doing errands, keeping yourself in shape or can't shop for a better mattress.
Actually, to stop doing these normal things would be anything BUT normal.
Also, passivity is NOT recommeded by doctors unless it is WARRANTED. Obviously, since she's physically in extremely good shape since she has always been exercising, she hasn't YOUR need to rest. She's physically stronger than you, apparently.
I don't judge you and tell you that you should have been in better shape before giving birth. I don't tell you what selfish, sloppy and uneducated women you are for not being in top condition like Nicole before you have a child.
Judge others and you will be judged.
As usual, the desire to judge and hurt her is backfiring. People here look like ill-informed, closed-minded and pathologically negative freaks.
Karolyn-
Yes Nicole can leave Rose all she wants, but why would she want too? For years all we heard was that she wanted to have a child herself. Now that she has her, she can't even stay home with her for 24 hours! I don't give Keith any slack either. I can understand concerts, but not going out to eat. He can get the same food made at home or order in!!!!!!!!!! Lord these two are nuts!!!!!!!
Boy, it must suck to be kidman right now... mcconaughey just got his Ok baby cover... hell, even the pregnant dude's baby pic just made it into People mag... meanwhile, while everyone awaits the issue of the brangelina twins, kidmans baby pics will be lucky to make into the "Aussie Gazzette"...but kidman is working on drumming up interest in her own "Where's Sunrey?" vanity fair cover story by apparently neglecting her newborn by returning to the arrainged photo ops to make sure people remember she just had a kid... so far she's up to 3 photo ops a week... can she squeeze anymore in? Because after all the kid is with the help...
Karolyn-
Since you like to delete your posts when someone calls you out for talking out of both sides of your ass I must quote you so you can see how stupid you sound...
"Also, passivity is NOT recommeded by doctors unless it is WARRANTED. Obviously, since she's physically in extremely good shape since she has always been exercising, she hasn't YOUR need to rest. She's physically stronger than you, apparently."
Physically stronger than me huh?! Sounds like a judgement call to me?! You have no clue who I am or what kind of shape I am in....again sounds like someone needs to practice what they preach.
"I don't judge you and tell you that you should have been in better shape before giving birth. I don't tell you what selfish, sloppy and uneducated women you are for not being in top condition like Nicole before you have a child."
Again with the insults Karolyn.....are you sure you're not Cindy....I know she likes to name call!!!
You can ramble on all you want about how horrible we are for the things we say about Nicole, you can ramble on all you want about how we shouldnt judge her, go ahead ramble.....but keep in mind the same thing you want us to stop is the same thing you are doing.
It's OK ... karolyn only has insults to back up her claims, as pathetic as that is. I believe she may have a mental illness, so I don't want to be too hard on her. She clearly has no idea of what she's talking about. I also don't want to agitate her ... she gets too emotional and flips out. It might be dangerous for people around her.
As far as NK goes, she can do what she wants. I would have liked to think she WANTED to spend time with her new baby...you remember the one she claims she's yearned for all these years? Instead, she'd rather escape to the movie theatre or to Starbucks to get coffee or to yoga class.
Sorry...that's very odd behavior for a woman who has yearned for her "own" baby for years. It clarifies, however, why there is such a disconnect between NK and Bella & Connor. She failed to bond with them and now they don't want to spend much time with her. This is is likely to be the future with Sunday Rose, as well. So sad for this baby.
Why can't you delusional, sad beings understand that she gave birth and that she is happily married to Keith, and more than likely will stay that way for the foreseeable future? It's pathetic and sick.
Are your lives really that empty? Do you need to invent mystery and conspiracies since the truth is too dull and painful? Most likely.
Well it seems someone is upset at the conversation here. I don't think she gave birth. I don't think they are happily married. I don't think they have ever told the truth about any aspect of this drama. That's my opinion and you may not share it nor understand it but just like yours I can believe what I want.
That's my opinion and you may not share it nor understand it but just like yours I can believe what I want.
Of course you can. You all can..and do. Keep deluding yourselves if it makes you feel better. Keith and Nicole will in the meantime stay married. lol
Don't hope for a divorce anytime soon, though. Keith is totally devoted to Nicole. :)
Karolyn-
At last we agree on something....you said:
"Keith is totally devoted to Nicole."
You are so right he is so devoted to her.....I just wish she gave him the same respect in return!!!
"Also, passivity is NOT recommeded by doctors unless it is WARRANTED. Obviously, since she's physically in extremely good shape since she has always been exercising, she hasn't YOUR need to rest. She's physically stronger than you, apparently."
Physically stronger than me huh?!
Probably, yes. Bullies are often short, fat, ugly and generally miserable creatures, full of envy.
Sounds like a judgement call to me?! You have no clue who I am or
what kind of shape I am in....again sounds like someone needs to practice what they preach.
I throw that right back in your face, then. Stop judging Nicole! You have no idea what she's like, except that she is physically in very good shape. All you people do is whine about rest, as if she was near death, simply because she went out on a couple of occasions.
You judge her and crucify her, based on malicious gossip and the paparazzi pictures you see. Give me a break.
"I don't judge you and tell you that you should have been in better shape before giving birth. I don't tell you what selfish, sloppy and uneducated women you are for not being in top condition like Nicole before you have a child."
"ramble.....but keep in mind the same thing you want us to stop is the same thing you are "
I have hard evidence of what I'm saying..your own words.
You have virtually nothing on Nicole. You make up your own little nasty stories in your heads, without having anything substantial that backs it up.
Nicole went to the movies with Keith, (her loving husband). Oh, she's a BAD mother, lacking maternal instincts! You don't even understand just how crazy you all sound. This site says more about yourselves than anything else, and you don't even realize it.
You are proven haters and bullies. That makes it right for anyone to make a judgment, and I have.
Nicole Kidman is a stranger that you have decided to hate, obsess about, and devote all this time and energy on, ONLY because she stole your precious Keith.
It is pointless. They are most likely happily married, compatible, share their marital bed and their time and lives, while you are here writing this crap. You make me laugh.
Karolyn-
I add you to my list of others here who have become a waste of time.....there is no point in talking to you because you are unwilling to admit you are talking out of both side of your ass.
You have no proof of anything. Continue to insult me and see where it gets you.
You want to belittle me for what I believe fine, go ahead I however am done with ever trying to discuss anything with you.
Probably, yes. Bullies are often short, fat, ugly and generally miserable creatures, full of envy.
ROFLMAO What an utterly retarded statement!! Just so you know being short is NOT by any means a bad thing. I happen to be petite at 5'1 and never wanted to be tall. What a dumbass you are.
Karolyn said...
"...For the record, people "heal" in different ways. Some want peace and relaxation, others need some kind of activity..I'd say most people do, actually. Healing and passivity are not the same thing...."
Karolyn said...
"Doctors recommend activity when possible. Passivity is old school medicine. It can actually worsen a lot of conditions."
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i agree. i worked with a woman who had a hysterectomy and was up the following day walking the halls. the nurses asked her if she minded going from room to room to get some of the other women up and out of bed because, although it was painful, it promoted healing.
my mother-in-law had a hysterectomy and was told she'd be off work for six weeks. after a week, she was re-painting her walls at home and, after two weeks, she returned to work.
these women may have gone against the norm, but it's proof to me that every woman is different.
My God karolyn, you really need to seek some professional help ASAP. You might want to take Reality Check and sonora melody with you too. I'm having visions of Sybil here.
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