While we are on our quest for the truth about the Kidman pregnancy, we can't disregard the recent deaths of Brad Renfro and Heath Ledger, nor ignore all that is Britney. Why tie these stories onto the Kidman wagon?
Because those of us who have followed Keith Urban know that he too could very easily fall off the very ledge all these people were, and are, on. A year ago when Keith went to rehab many really weren't aware of how serious Keith's addictions are. They are serious. Sobriety is a minute by minute struggle for addicts, and makes no mistake about it Keith Urban is an addict. For all the quick quips and snickering about him being a druggie and booze hound, especially in the Australian press, there has been little about how Keith has survived the last year in his sobriety. We know he goes to meetings. Those are highlighted by the paps following him, tipped off by the wife and her people.
The legend is as he paints it, according to script, that he is here because of her. We don't agree. Keith Urban is here because of Keith Urban. He chose to stay in treatment. He chose to continue his therapy in aftercare. Perhaps his actions of the last year are indications that he is evolving in his sobriety.
Whatever he has been doing it will never be enough, he will never be cured. For the rest of his life he will be riding that wave that brings the most brilliant sunshine and could in a matter of seconds capsize him. As we hear more and more about the above people and what has happened or not happened in their tragedies, remember as many of us did when we heard “overdose” and “Australian”, that it’s not something of myths; not something that is made, like his performance with his wife at the Australian Open, but a very real possibility that Keith Urban lives with everyday. He really did do something extraordinary when he went to the Betty Ford Clinic. Let’s hope all those around him remember that too.
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very nice blog....i've always been so glad keith chose to stay the full 90 days to work on his addictions.
sadly, to most, he will just be known as NK's drunk/druggie husband.
i agree that keith's choice to go to meetings and continue his aftercare are critical. i truly hope he makes it, in spite of the selfish, heinous, self-centered, talentless woman he has to now please.
This blog is sickening. First of all we dont know why Heath died. There are reports he had pneumonia and was extremely exhausted. It is a tragedy.
But please dont pretend to care about Keith in one breath and in the next mock his marriage. If Keith, God forbid, had a tragic end, Nicole would be blamed. But she will never get the respect here she derserves by making sure he got help. No one travels the road of sobriety alone. Keith needs AA, his friends, and his family, which includes Nicole, to support him.
You continue to belittle his wife and their unborn child. Thats what is heinous and classless.
R.I.P. Heath Ledger
The harsh reality of addicts and alcoholics is that they dont "recover" from it. And the harsh reality is that they dont deal with their addictions by making reality denying statements that their spouse, or kids.. or parents... or dog or even goldfish will be responsible for their success in dealing with their ongoing addictions. It will only take one little slip up, that will lead to another, and then so on...etc... that really makes their relying on a spouse, who whether they may believe in their eyes to be perfectly understanding, or always forgiving, or will remain always supportive, so very self deceiving. Because in real life, that kind of reasoning was probably the reason they got into their addiction and self abuse mode in the first place... whatever that may be... not enough attention from the mother, or ignored by the father...whatever. Urban may say he is responsible for his problems, but then placing the responsibililty of ongoing recovery to the wife shows a pretty ignorant and unsure view of what its going to take to really deal with his problems. And then placed in the bizzare and unreal world of hollywoodland, where image is king... urban is better served looking to himself for a reliable and stable self image.
maclen a dog or a goldfish would show much more support for Keith's struggle to stay clean and sober than Nicold.All she's interested in is her next photo op.At least a fish or dog wouldn't call the paps every time he sets foot out of the house.They wouldn't have set up a photo op on the grounds of Betty Ford.A fish or a dog would have some loyalty to him.They sure as hell would be more warm blooded and loving tham that frozen bitch.
Yeah your right cricket, she sure is making most of these photo ops isnt she...
... I also meant to add that it is the classic desperate move, in the sense that the reason is its so true, for a couple who have gone through troubles in their marriage or have some issues that are constantly hanging over it, to believe that bringing a kid into the mix will somehow, magically, solve all their problems. But it seems that kind of thinking only makes it worse, because people who have never had kids... and kidman has not... they have absolutely no idea of how much of an added anxiety it will really be... but with kidman, who wallows in self pity i'm not very surprised she would try to make it happen.
How many here have walked in their shoes? How many know really know what is happening in their lives? Yeah, thought so .....
maclen - you continue to sit in judgement of Keith & Nicole no matter what they do. You seem to have such a personal interest in hating her that you are unwilling to ever accept anything as being a good thing for them.
You know, if we scrutinized everyone that was bringing a child into this world the consensus would be that it wouldn't be a good thing. None of us are perfect, we all have our faults and baggage but we can reproduce and will continue to do so until either the end of time or we evolve into sterile creatures.
well, reality check, by all of NK's actions, we don't see much support. she doesn't like nashville, she doesn't like his fans, and she doesn't like his music, (that silly country stuff that keith does). what is it gonna take for you people to see her for what she is?
and i take offense at your comment that we all belittle this unborn baby. i just hope she gives keith a say in anything pertaining to this baby. her "mother" track record ain't so swift. and she in no way has shown evidence that she supports his career. that silly country thing he does is beneath her "highness". God help the poor little baby.
and you can take it to the bank that if anything happens to keith, she will be blamed. just like he will be blamed by you blind bats when they split.
all i have to say.. is I cant stand her!!!
doublewide said...
"well, reality check, by all of NK's actions, we don't see much support. she doesn't like nashville, she doesn't like his fans, and she doesn't like his music,..."
and judging by the ridiculous australian open photo op, which she spent all of 20 minutes at, and basically ditching urban, who as time goes on is looking more and more like a pathetic sock puppet... or more correct, a marionette, whose strings kidman pulls for these shameless and worthless photo ops...anyone who believes these are anything other than for her agenda alone, are not very perceptive.
Can't wait to see what Keith has to say at his upcoming concerts about the baby. Are we gonna be saying that he's the better actor if he's appearing to be genuinely happy? Cause we all know you diehard skeptics would never accept that to be real.
To those of you that dont like what you read here, why do you read it? And when you read it and it makes you angry, or upset why do you feel the need to "fuel the fire" by responding? Im not attacking you or saying you're doing anything wrong, just asking what's the point?
Wouldnt it be easier on you to just not read this blog? I dont agree with everything said here, and most the time I shake my head and laugh and MOVE ON. Maybe Im in the minority maybe there is something you gain from argueing with the skeptics....why not just leave them alone, they are in their own place, they dont post their "crap" on the message boards anymore....it seems they've moved on, and maybe it's time for some of you to move on as well and realize people are going to say negative things about Keith and Nicole, get over it. It's not on his or her personal message board so really I dont see the harm. Keith and Nicole are both human just like the rest of us and do have faults. As much as some of you would like to believe he is far from perfect.
"To those of you that dont like what you read here, why do you read it? And when you read it and it makes you angry, or upset why do you feel the need to "fuel the fire" by responding?"
It certainly isn't the same reasons you naysayers do - you people have no idea and are grabbing at straws trying to pretend like your experts on addicitons and people who are famous.
You've really gone straight to the bottom with this blog!
whitetrash-
You quoted me but didnt answer the question!
This is a blog, a matter of personal opinion, nobody asks you to come here and read, and you know what you're gonna get when you do, so why bother, to me it seems you have some interest in what is being said here.
You dont know Keith and Nicole either, nobody that posts on any message board does....if they did they wouldnt post! It is all opinion, you see them as happy and in love, others dont, why do you care?
I read for the entertainment I get out of....not because Im a naysayer.....personally I dont care to make a judgement call on if they are happy or not, I dont know either of them well enough to do something like that. I would hope they are happy, but dont pretend to KNOW, as I dont believe anyone here pretends to know, they just share their opinion and perception.
wastedemotion said...
"To those of you that dont like what you read here, why do you read it? And when you read it and it makes you angry, or upset why do you feel the need to "fuel the fire" by responding? Im not attacking you or saying you're doing anything wrong, just asking what's the point?"
Well, finally a new commenter who gets it. This is a opinion blog, and we like to opine. But, wastedemotion, Id just advise, out of personal experience, that you dont continue to try and address every outraged and insulted urban or kidman fan who continue to whine and complain about it here a "kidban" cynics corner of the net. I finally grew tired of trying to address it all. So a message to all of them... dont bother to lecture me about how mean, or bitter... or jealous I am of them. Dont try to initiate another pointless argument over my personal opinions... or how you claim to know the truth of my thoughts or opinions. You all claim to be outraged over how we are projecting our own fantasies and spin on their actions or public statements... so why dont you quit doing it here if that is what you claim to be so outraged about.
maclen-
Advice noted!! I've read for a long time, just finally decided to post. I just dont get it, if it made me so mad to read, I wouldnt read?!
... I also meant to add that it is the classic desperate move, in the sense that the reason is its so true, for a couple who have gone through troubles in their marriage or have some issues that are constantly hanging over it, to believe that bringing a kid into the mix will somehow, magically, solve all their problems. But it seems that kind of thinking only makes it worse, because people who have never had kids... and kidman has not... they have absolutely no idea of how much of an added anxiety it will really be... but with kidman, who wallows in self pity i'm not very surprised she would try to make it happen.
in whatever direction a marriage is heading, having a child will hasten it in that direction. if it's a really strong marriage, it will become stronger, and the opposite is also true. any guesses to where this one is going?
glad you posted wastedmotion!
wastedemotion said...
"maclen-
Advice noted!! I've read for a long time, just finally decided to post. I just dont get it, if it made me so mad to read, I wouldnt read?!"
Yes, that is my philosophy on this as well, wastedemotion. Basically, if your going to surf the net, you're going to read alot of things that you are not going to agree with. I constantly read things on celebs or musicians that I like that are not very positive, but as is pretty evident on this blog that I agree with it's point of view, I'm of the opinion if I can dish it out, I should be willing to take it. Just for example, I'll occassionally go to NKU or Monkeyville, jsut to check out the opinions of the devoted, and of course I'll have a chuckle... but I'm certainly not going to register at those fansites and start denegrating and ridiculing their members opinions... I''ll leave them to their chosen sites. Just as I choose to come to this site, where I share a common opinion with a majority of commenters. Just on this tread alone, this blog has been called "sickening"... weve been called heinous and classless... and "You've really gone straight to the bottom with this blog!" Yeah, pretty classy statements from such self proclaimed santimonious defenders of good taste.
Uh, well doublewide, I dont think it lasts,of course, whether they end up with a kid or not. Such a self consious and apparently manufactured pairing will fizzle, just how or when, who knows.
maclen-
I dread the day when it does fizzle and all the Nicole lovers blast Keith up and down and talk badly about him, you know it will be all his fault if and when they do fizzle!
My point was simple, as far as I can tell there are rarely posts on the fan sites that questions their relationship, it seemed that was all the fanatics wanted was for the skeptics to move one and post their "sick", "twisted", and "distorted" opinions elsewhere....well it happened, so why come here and read it unless you are interested!!
doublewide and maclen thanks for the "welcome."
Uh, well doublewide, I dont think it lasts,of course, whether they end up with a kid or not. Such a self consious and apparently manufactured pairing will fizzle, just how or when, who knows
i'm sorry, maclen, if i inferred that you thought differently. you and i are totally on the same page. this one won't last, baby or not.
when i can stomach it i go to monkeyville and nku, and have a good riotous laugh! but i don't insult them by posting. they'd get the big ole "swiffer" out anyway.
you're welcome wastedemotion. i'm sorry i misspelled your name earlier!
Hey doublewide, I didnt get that impression from you at all. I reread by last response to you, and i just realized that the "uh" in the begginning kind of makes it sound a little sarcastic, doesnt it? But i wasnt really, I put that in because after my longwinded response to wastedemotion, I just meant it that I was just trying to think about your question about how the "kidban" will end up. No, in this blog, or what I llike to call, the kidban cynical corner of the web, I know you are a compatriot of mine, in the resistance to the occasional hand fed goats of kidman and or urban who come just to annoy us... and yeah wastedemotion, I once described urban as her marionette, and when she does eventially cuts the strings, he is gonna have one hard fall, I think.
Realitycheck, you really need to take OURNIC off that pedestal you've got her on.
The only person that deserves credit or blame for Keith's "sobriety" (cough cough) is Keith himself.
notachance said.....
Can't wait to see what Keith has to say at his upcoming concerts about the baby.
Oh yes, because of course Keith's concerts are now all about his personal life. You know, the one he keeps oh-so-private. He should be talking about his new last name and his upcoming baby. Not playing music.
Just so you don't forget who he's married to.
maclen,
no problem whatsoever! i love your "kidban" cynics corner name. and for somebody who is not a keith fan, you have incredible insight concerning him.....sadly, i agree, when she cuts the strings, it will be a terribly hard fall. i just hope he can sustain it.
and notbuyingitinashville, sp? i shudder to think about what the concerts will be like with all the wife and baby talk. i won't be attending one.
just gonna sit here in my trailer and munch on cheetohs and big red soda......
wastedemotion, welcome! You hit that nail right on the head. I do not always agree with everything on here but people sometimes have a way of showing you another view. If I do not like it, well that is their opinion, not mine.
The worshippers need to go elsewhere. They can go to the websites and post there. You are only allowed to post positive, shiny, happy stuff on there.
I am a big Keith fan, but I know he is not perfect. I saw him quite a few times last year and he does not mention his wife very much at all. It will be interesting to see what will happen on this tour.
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