Tuesday, March 15, 2011

How to ruin a perfectly good video...

In Keith Urban's new video "Without You", you can see wedding photos that were previously said to be "private" from his royal wedding with Nicole Kidman. Sunday Rose even makes a live appearance...


79 comments:

Tara said...

The shark has been jumped.

Hatti said...

Here it goes another one down the dunny!! ((giggles)))

smorgas91 said...

....Burp...burp...ugggghhhhhhhhh

Jake said...

I got a question. If you saw the piece in the People video. Sunday is sitting on a chair not even looking at Urban. He is not holding her or sitting with her on his lap. The weird thing to me is its like she is looking at everyone else but him. Its not like she was having her picture taken the video has old photos of a baby in a crib not a 2 1/2 year old. What is up with him?

maclen said...

Ha! Dull song...dull video premise...and predictbly...apparently not even original...

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b231246_country_clash_did_nicole_kidmans_hubby.html

Country Clash! Did Nicole Kidman's Hubby Rip Off Kellie Pickler?

Orb does seem to have a dearth of "non original" and downright mundane material to work with!

Tara said...

Jake,
It seems pretty obvious that they don't spend a lot of time together.
He ripped off MMOU he is back with hicky who isn't that good of a director. I wonder if this is not for the single but to use in Oz when he tours over there as a device to show the happy family crap.

Hatti said...

Well maclen, why not if he isn't ripping off people's pocket books he is ripping off their songs. I guess it still turns out to be an out of pocket experience!!! ((giggles))))

maclen said...

Hatti said...
"Well maclen, why not if he isn't ripping off people's pocket books he is ripping off their songs. I guess it still turns out to be an out of pocket experience!!! ((giggles))))"

Sorry, Im a little slow this week...just getting over a head cold. Yes, Hattie, orb doesnt have an original thinking bone in his body it seems. And his subpar PR "blands" simply has him trailing most every elite country star on every aspect! Cd sales...awards...live gigs...orb is NOT a leader in any of the aspects. He's simply "middle of the road!"

Hatti said...

Yes maclen....The out-of-pocket was a spoof as in out-of-body :D I think KU is "outta" his mind. His rocket climbed and he shot it down himself. Now if that is a rational minded person than I am Einstein in disguise. I don't think Einstein was a real blonde!! ((giggles))))))


Take honey and lemon tea. 1000 mg of vit C every day and Ricola Honey and Herbal cough drops. You will be back to your very brilliant self in no time! :D

Tara said...

I watched this again and really hadn't noticed til really watching him in it how withdrawn he is. He is singing but he really is just going through the motions, to steal the lyric. It seems almost sad in a way.
The most enthusiastic is when he is on stage- wonder why? Not really.

maclen said...

Hatti said...
"Take honey and lemon tea. 1000 mg of vit C every day and Ricola Honey and Herbal cough drops. You will be back to your very brilliant self in no time! :D"

HEy thanks for the advice Hatti...already take lemon in my tea...but I'll be sure to try out those other recommendations! This bug is proving hard to shake!
Not much shaking when it comes to the orb's career, eh? This rather pathetic gimmick of orb shilling his very uninteresting marriage to kidman is only a sliver in the shambles of his current career status! Down once again on Billboard's Top 200, from #121 last week to #133 this week...down again to #25 on the country chart...and down to #123 in cd sales with a lowly sales of 4k last week...to put in in automotive terms...the orb's "engine" is currently running on "no pistons!"

JOY said...

OK I get what y'all are saying. But he did not write this song & yet he still makes it his own & the video only adds to that. I personally like Keith's faster songs but for a slower one this song is pretty good.
I will be seeing him in August for the first time in a full concert with Keith as the headliner. I've seen him perform live other times but it wasn't a full concert or he wasn't the headliner. I know I will be very pleased with his performance because Keith gives it his all on stage. He puts himself in each note & each word. He's a very talented performer & I will get my money's worth.

He is like all other performers, some things they put out are home runs and some aren't. But he keeps going & he keeps making his fans happy with his "knocked out of the park" performances.

Jake said...

Im hope you feel better fast maclen. This has been a bad year for all kinds of bugs.

As for Urban. He hasnt made anything worthwhile in album form since Be Here I think it was. The Pain was not anything more than a token of some old songs and some not in a country genre. DG was gravitating to pop. And this one is just a very superficial try at pushing Pork Chop to getting an Oscar and he getting his label.

Yes maclen your right he is mediocre at best.

Hatti said...

Well this video we are commenting about tells me this, KU (IS) the stark barren room (place) he is showing us HIS shadows on a bare wall displaying the things he is SUPPOSE to care about. Yet they are just shadows and nothing real to him.

Now if you look at it as a message I think he is saying that the only things he has that are real are the things not in the shadows. The things in bright color but well hidden!!!

Must be the fancy cars, the guitars, and all that traveling!! ((giggles)))

If you were happy and it was all about the person that gave you meaning to your life why wouldn't you have a happy background and plenty of color.

One thing about KU, he really is a melodramatic!! ((giggles)))

maclen said...

Jake said...
"Im hope you feel better fast maclen. This has been a bad year for all kinds of bugs.

As for Urban. He hasnt made anything worthwhile in album form since Be Here I think it was. The Pain was not anything more than a token of some old songs and some not in a country genre."

Hey thanks Jake...yeah I'm feeling back to normal!
Yes, I'll surely bow to your opnion of orb's current state of decline in his music...IF you can call it that! As Ive mentioned before, since orb first put out a cd, which was in 1991...(that's 20 years!)...orb has ONLY written about 14 or 15 songs solo! And now he's actually bragging that his current single is the MOST "autobiographical" song...that WAS NOT written by him! So, SOMEONE ELSE had to write the perfect song FOR HIM! That perfectly tells you all you need to know about orb's current "inspiration!" It shows you he DOESNT have any...or he simply does not have the creativity or talent to pen his own life! Hardly an "elite" talent...something I have been pointing out for years.

Jake said...

Nah...I think Porkys money dulled his senses. His writing days (as few as they were) are over his pipes are weak the only strong talent left is his playing. He can always sing and play for a small group of investers looking for his dough! They will tell him what he wants to hear for a chance to get some bucks. LOL

Hatti said...

I just don't see how he is going to carry off this US tour! His sales are very weak, maclen. It looks to me as if he really is at the end of the road.

What do you think he may try to keep it going? Jake Owens certainly isn't KU's fix all!

It seems no heavy weights are interested in helping out this international star!! ((giggles))

maclen said...

Hatti said...
"I just don't see how he is going to carry off this US tour! His sales are very weak, maclen. It looks to me as if he really is at the end of the road."

Well, Hatti...if you look at the fact that the orb only had a Grammy's "sales bump" of about 3k or 4k more cds sold...how is he supposed to have a cd sales bump off his live tour? The tour will be predominately of his fansies...who also presumably have already bought his cd...so who is it gonna bring into his already dwindling fanbase?

maclen said...

So...here is an update on the past weeks country cd sales...this weeks sales then total cds sold...

http://www.roughstock.com/blog/sara-evans-scores-second-week-1-with-stronger-

18 Jason Aldean My Kinda Party 21,258- 980,337

23 20 Rascal Flatts Nothing Like This 19,259- 703,437

25 23 Zac Brown Band
You Get What You Give 16,487- 770,704

20 24 Lady Antebellum Need You Now 15,964 - 3,372,300

24 26 Taylor Swift Speak Now 15,098- 3,271,623

50 46 Kenny Chesney Hemingway's Whiskey 9,109- 749,570

51 47 Sugarland The Incredible Machine 9,068- 900,357

65 60 Miranda Lambert Revolution 7,576- 1,234,096

123 112 Keith Urban Get Closer 4,316- 554,550

...yes...I do have a strong feeling, looking at orb's numbers...his cd sales will probably remain in the 500k ceiling...which I DID predict he would even before his cd was released last November! Now as just a comparison on how weak the orb is selling...recall that Rascal Flatts' cd was released the SAME DAY as orb's...and in fact a few weeks after they were released...Flatts cd sales HAD FALLEN below orbs cd sales...BUT NOW, Flatts sales have now risen to almost 5 times the sales of orb and now leads his cd sales by almost 150k!

Jake said...

Yea Urban clearly has a long road ahead if he wants to try. I just got a feeling that what ever he does now is just to keep some sort of career to walk next to Porky! LOL

Tara said...

Last week in the Top 12 Country Video countdown this video premiered in first place. This week it fell considerably.

maclen said...

Tara said...
"Last week in the Top 12 Country Video countdown this video premiered in first place. This week it fell considerably."

Yes, it seems orb latest single has also stalled on the itunes country song charts at the #22 and #25 range. Again, it hard to take all of orb's "so personal" shilling for this song very serious...for a song that he didnt write! I think this review of the song says it perfectly...

http://www.countryuniverse.net/2011/02/04/single-review-keith-urban-without-you/


Single Review: Keith Urban, “Without You”

"Mr. Urban, you’re trying to trick me.
You’re giving me an achingly sincere vocal performance. You’re giving me a stripped down production that’s genuinely country, fiddle and all. You’re giving me your life story, from the music to the marriage to the birth of your daughter.

It all adds up to so much goodness that you almost distracted me from the clunky and self-indulgent songwriting. I can’t even give you a pass on that, because you didn’t write it.

You might have pulled it off if you’d held off on using the line, “Up until you came along, no one ever heard my song, now it’s climbing like a bullet,” until later on, maybe in one of those random breakdowns you like to do at the end to extend album versions from four minutes to twenty.

See, I love it when you get personal. Remember “Song For Dad” and “You’re Not My God”? Loved ‘em. And “Thank You” was basically this song, done more artfully and in a more universally relevant way.
But “Without You” just feels too much like “Keith Urban sings about what it’s like to be in love with Nicole Kidman” to be interesting to me. It might be an unfair criticism, given that’s what your life is all about these days and it’s made you blissfully happy, but it’s a boring song.

Maybe blissful happiness is hard to write about well when you’re not Rodney Crowell. Perhaps you should go back to covering him when you’re feeling this way?

Written by Dave Pahanish and Joe West

I do not consider orb to be a "songwriter"...he writes...or more correctly, writes songs with OTHER true songwriters. Why cover someone else's song..that would supposedly tell your life story? Why wouldnt he write it himself? Simply...it's because he cant.

Hatti said...

Exactly maclen, He can't write b/c it's not where he is. He is in a stark barren place with all the wrong turns dropping him right there. He is not blissfully happy. He is miserable but he caused it all himself. Now there is no one and nothing to go to. He blew up all his bridges.

Sorry, that is the truth!! Keith Urban is a person that always feels everyone turned against him instead of being a man and owning up to his mistakes. And there are many!!!!

smorgas91 said...

So lame that he is, unknowingly (knowingly would be too much credit and has no meaning to his career other than to show nk of his love for her so much that he's willing to destroy his career) he's situated his career to a mere footnote to that of his vapid, appearace-centered tranny. A part of me thought he may be suffering from super low self-esteem, and willing to take a second fiddle to his wife's miserable career -- likely not seen that way in his household. There have been exemplary pictures of them captured with him walking several steps behind her & sac of accessory/baby. Yep, he can never be worthy enough to be the top priority in that family. So then why should his fans feel otherwise, if the man, supposedly a talented artist, is unable to make meaningful expressions of his life's existence? He don't care, then we don't care -- yeah, yeah

Jake said...

Yea smorg, the only thing I see is a guy that dont want to work and is willing to let himself look as if he is taken care of. A kept man. There arent many men that can let that out there in full view! LOL

Unknown said...

Jake, thats the most suprising thing in this arrangement. Where is the man's dignity?

smorgas91 said...

Mike, Jake, this moron is that proverbial p***y-whipped, it's as simple as that; what's not simple is by a tranny

Tara said...

Pussy whipped all the way to the bank.

Hatti said...

I have never seen a man show the world that money means everything. Usually a man puts up a good front. I know they tried to convince us this was for real but it is so phoney you just cannot believe it.

So I think he is just saying well the heck with it, here I am I don't care about career or anything else just her money. Get use to it, this is the real me!!

Ok I'm use to it!! I think he is a jerk the biggest since Eddie Fisher!!! And he has just about as much of a career!!! ((giggles)))

maclen said...

So, not much on the orb front...besides the middling PR...

http://www.musicrooms.net/showbiz/29742-keith-urban-family-is-my-priority.html#

Keith Urban: Family is my priority

...yep, that tired old "inept team kidman" standby... to help explain away a dwindling career! Yes..."My career is tanking because my FAMILY is MORE IMPORTANT!" BUT...exploit the "PR baby" for a gaudy music video. So, I did notice these hilarious comments over at the Pulse Music Board...the latest reactions to orb's latest single...to wit...

http://pulsemusic.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=country&action=display&thread=103859&page=2#

Re: Keith Urban - "Without You"
« Reply #30 on Mar 20, 2011, 3:50pm


Ten Pound Hammer commented...
"Worst. Keith. Urban. Song. Ever.

Seriously... even though I thought he was doing too many love songs, at least he continued to produce generally interesting fare: excellent vocals, catchy melodies and lively production. I can say plenty of good things about even what I thought were his two weakest singles, "You're My Better Half" and "Kiss a Girl".
But this song's just so bland and boring — I heard it about six times in two days, and I don't remember a single word from it. Uninspired melody, uninspired production, and lyrics so uninspired that I managed to predict at least two lines almost exactly just based on the rhyme. Even his singing sounds lifeless and anonymous.
Seriously, what went so horribly wrong here?"

Zazie replies...
"His voice and the fiddle sound great to me, but what do I know? Also I like his recent choice of songs making references to country radio and the country music chart in imaginative ways."

Ten Pound Hammer comments...
"There was a fiddle in this song? All I heard were mushy strings.
The line about climbing with a bullet is somewhat creative, but I don't think it fits into the song very well."

bigbluenote replies...
"I was reading your post and wondered why it sounded so familiar. You said exactly what I was thinking. Then I went back and saw that I posted a similar comment when this thread was started. Occasionally, over time my opinion of a song will change.
But not this time.
And we're stuck with this terrible song for a while too."

...otherwise not many...besides one comment in the past 8 days...supporting the single. Will be interesting to see the "bump" the song gets from orb's recent appearence on the Tonight show? Will he get the "MASSIVE" bump of 3k more cd's sold he got from his "Grammy" bump?! Unlike rascal flatts...

http://www.wmzqfm.com/common/news/article.html?feed=104651&article=8304278

Sara Evans has #1 Country album
Wednesday March 16th


" And Rascal Flatts take number-five with Nothing Like This getting a 22 percent sales bump after their ABC TV special over the weekend."

...orb does not seem to have much luck selling cds!

maclen said...

...post scipture...

...oh yeah, was going to mention orb's "free" gig in San Fran this past saturday...but couldnt find any info about it. Was just wondering if anyone found anything on that gig? Would be interested in the attendence for that 3 or 4 song gig?
And also...orb is now on Ellen...and the first question is about PR baby #2...so the "preplanned" PR rolls on...

Hatti said...

There were pics out of them walking in the rain with KU holding Sunday.Moosie girl holding the boots so nicely for the rain to go right in!! ((giggles))

It said something about his condert being rained out. I don't know what he considers a concert. I didn't think a few songs for a few people after lunch a concert. But what do I know!! ((giggles))))

Unknown said...

maclen, Keith's performance in San Francisco was cancelled due to an expected rainstorm. It has not been rescheduled.

Imahick said...

The San Franscisco gig was cancelled due to bad weather. There were tornados and mudslides, hail and lots of rain.

I have to say that this is one of the first songs in a while that I liked. Keith didn't write it, but I thought his voice was clear and for a change, it sounded country to me - fiddle & banjo (ganjo). But what do I know. I've found many of his songs over produced in the past couple of CD's so I thought the simplicity was refreshing.

Hatti said...

Well Ima, I think he has done simplicity before in his earlier CDs.

I take exception to the song. We know very well that nothing wonderful has happened with his career since they hooked up. So for him to sing like he didn't have fans or a career before her does not compute to me.

He didn't write this song but yet he says it portrays his life. That is a lie and we all know it!!!

MY problem is, why lie?? why not just sing it and leave it alone why try to force all these falsehoods on people that know the truth. He is getting to much like Moosie girl for me!! It doesn't work for her it sure won't work for him!!

Puddy Tat said...

I totally agree on the over produced songs on the last 2 or 3 cd's. On his prior (great) albums, you could understand all the vocals. The last 3 (not so great), the music overpowers the vocals. As for his latest single, boring is, well, just that....boring. Fiddle and ganjo do not a country song make, nor a lively song.

maclen said...

Thanks for the info on that san fran gig, Hatti, mike and imahick. Well, it's a 'what would have been'...that will not be known...so moving on! As for the new single...again, only a fan would be inpressed by orb's version...although "production" wise...outside of the banjo on orb's version...listening to the Pahanish's original and orb's cover...there IS NOT MUCH difference between them. Here, listen to them now...

http://www.emusic.com/album/Dave-Pahanish-Dave-Pahanish-MP3-Download/12105672.html

"Pahanish"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2Eo1PtWKio

"orb"

...and again outside of said banjo...orb's version is a little slower tempo...but practically identical to the original. In fact, I submit that orb's "slower" tempo version TAKES away from pahanish's ORIGINAL exuberance the song is supposedly expressing. In searching for the song links, I happened on this article of pahanish explaining the song's meaning...now tell me IF this sounds rather familar?

http://www.ourstage.com/tracks/QSOJISULJYJI-without-you#

WITHOUT YOU
by Dave Pahanish

"I wrote this song as a thanks to my wife and to her family that accepted me in with open arms. I happen to write it in Belize just after the birth of my Sister in laws first child.. it was a magical week, and the song is about the most precious person in my life. Also wrote it during the release of a single of mine that was climbing the charts rapidly.... I only mention that to let you know what Climbin with A Bullet means in the song.

Uploaded: October 2, 2010
Duration:"

So, once again, I submit...THIS SONG describes pahanish's emotions and experiences....AND NOT the orb's...NO MATTER how hard orb TRIES to co-opt pahanish's ORIGINAL thoughts and feelings! And again, only a fan would overlook the fact the orb would need to "borrow" an emotion to so deeply describe something that is so... supposedly... VERY PERSONAL.

maclen said...

So, Roughstock has last week's cd sales up now...

http://www.roughstock.com/blog/aldean-returns-to-1-on-album-chart-thompson-square-has-1-single

18 26 Jason Aldean My Kinda Party 19,271 999,608

23 28 Zac Brown Band You Get What You Give 16,538 787,242

20 30 Rascal Flatts Nothing Like This 16,198 719,635

26 34 Taylor Swift Speak Now 15,344 3,286,967

24 34 Lady Antebellum Need You Now 15,110 3,387,410

47 46 Sugarland The incredible Machine 11,272 911,629

46 58 Kenny Chesney Hemingway's Whiskey 9,358 758,928

60 65 Miranda Lambert Revolution 7,950 1,242,046


66 77 Zac Brown Band Foundation 6,827 2,559,143

112 127 Keith Urban Get Closer 4,280 558,830

...in last weeks numbers orb sold 4,316 cds! So clearly, the answer to my question of how much of a "bump" orb would get from his appearence on the Tonight show in cd sales...is MINUS 36 cds! So again, just to reiterate...at that pace...orb should reach sales of one mill..."platinum"...in about 2 years 3 months. And based on orb performance so far...in that he's basically STUCK at this rate of sales...most likely he will not make it. HOw much will he gain when his tour in the US "officially" begins in 3 months? As I've already surmissed, his fansies going to see him live have already bought BOTH of his "mini-album" and his "deluxe" album of only 2 extra original songs. It is a reflection that his cd is very weak that his sales are so pitiful. And of course, Flatts ups their lead over orb by over 160k cds sold.

Hatti said...

Your stats maclen tell me that he is going to have a very bad year!! ((giggles)))

I would love to be a fly on the wall of that top hat that he is going to pull that rabbit out of.

This will have to be a doozy of a wabbit!! Don'tcha think Doc????((giggles))

maclen said...

Hatti said...
"Your stats maclen tell me that he is going to have a very bad year!! ((giggles)))
I would love to be a fly on the wall of that top hat that he is going to pull that rabbit out of.
This will have to be a doozy of a wabbit!! Don'tcha think Doc????((giggles)"

Ha! Yes Hatti...now that you mention it...kidman really does remind me of bugs bunny in drag! In fact...here's a very little seen pic of kidman and orb taken at the Academy awards last month....

http://mycomrade.com/images/1169.jpg

...kidman began to play it up for the photographers...but orb then just got his first look at jennifer lawrence!...

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/109776115/Getty-Images-Entertainment

Tara said...

So was the whole Sunday backstage on Ellen a set up?

I think that KU's people knew that there is a web camera and that it sometimes is posted on you tube
so why not schlep the kid back there
and have her picture taken

its so warm and fuzzy

maclen said...

So, Ive been lurking over at the orb "negative" thread over at the E! boards...and they are discussing a webcam video that shows a short backstage "exchange" between orb and his daughter sunday. I actually tried to register at the E! site so I could comment over there...but for some reason it wont go through. So I'll comment about here. Well, here is the video...posted here by "hit n run"

http://boards.eonline.com/Insider/Boards/thread.jspa?threadID=72055&tstart=0&messageID=3075568#3075568

...and the debate is whether orb's little "exchange" with his daughter was staged or not.... for the camera. Well, I looked at the video...it DID strike me as a preplanned little exchange for the camera. Now, the video is clearly an ellen show webcam getting video of show workers and the celebs going on and off onstage...pre and during the show. And obviously, as commentor MADISON on the E! board points out, the celebs are no doubt told there is a webcam getting video...imagine if a celeb is walking offstage and suddenly throws a crazy fit...you think they want that video posted on youtube? So, as to the video...you see the aide/nanny first bring out little sunry and they are standing between two stage platform...which is at the CENTER of the room...and you then see orb's bandmembers exiting the stage...even giving little sunry high fives. But orb does not exit...because obviously after the performance, orb sits at the guest chair and is interviewed by ellen. and clearly the aide/nanny is AWARE of that...and she brought out little sunry to see the band members as they exit. The aide/nanny then takes little sunry back to the green room til orb is set to finish his interview shot. And when the aide/nanny returns with little sunry to wait for orb to exit the stage...you notice that she DOES NOT stand at the center of the room as she did when they waited for the bandmembers...between the stage platforms...BUT she stops EVEN closer to the webcam...you can see there is a thick yellow line on the floor that is clearly a marker for the webcam's shot clearence....that is where the cam's picture frame begins...and you see the aide/nanny stop and she actually stands on the yellow line...and then little sunry sits down about 2 feet in front of that yellow line marker. ORb then exits the stage, and kneels down and has a little moment with his daughter...with the shot on the video... the "closest" and the "clearest" that is possible! Clearly, it was preplanned to catch a "private" moment of orb and his kid on the webcam...which is posted by the "offical" ellen show "deseminator" of webcam video...youtube member, "gloubor." I also found it odd that Ellen suddenly gushes over orb as one of her 'favorite" person in the world...something she did not say the last time orb was on the show...I watched the video of his last performance. Clearly there was a little "PR BS" arranged for orb's appearence this time. You'll also notice there is another "private" moment between ellen and orb...this other "personal" moment also posted on youtube...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrmrbvzM-K8

"Web Exclusive: Ellen Drops-In on Keith Urban"

...a video of ellen "surprising" orb as he practices his song on the show...with hugs and kisses...and then finding it's way onto youtube. So clearly over done and over the top even for ellen...the BS was surely high in the studio that day, huh?

maclen said...

Tara said...
"So was the whole Sunday backstage on Ellen a set up?
I think that KU's people knew that there is a web camera and that it sometimes is posted on you tube
so why not schlep the kid back there
and have her picture taken"

Yes...i agree Tara. As I just posted...it's a ellen show webcam that is getting video of celebs entering and exiting the stage. If they get a celeb slapping around an assistant...they want that posted on youtube? And IT IS clear, when the aide/nanny first brings out little sunry to see the bandmembers...she is standing FURTHER away from the webcam...and when she returns for orb to exit...she stops and stands CLOSER to the webcam...on that webcam yellow line marker I just mentioned in my last post. Orb is clearly looking to pubically shill his "relationship" with his daughter. Add to the "campaign" on this ellen show appearence...that other little "warm and fuzzy" video I posted with ellen. The celebs KNOW that there is a camera getting video of them.

maclen said...

...post op...


...so I'm noticing the debate over at the E! board. So, the counterpoint is that orb DID NOT know that there was a webcam that got footage of him and his kid?...that orb DID NOT have knowledge that the video would be posted on youtube? And so apparently, Ellen can place webcams and simply post the video online WITHOUT the celebs knowledge or consent? So that begs the question, does Ellen have other "hidden cams" on her show and is posting "other" videos of celebs without their consent online?

Hatti said...

maclen..I don't believe KU was not aware of the cameras. I do believe it was set up. KU does nothing at the spur of the moment, things must be planned. Even if it doesn't turn out well it was still planned.

That little girl is so use to being on stage and doing for the camera she was just doing what came naturally to her. It was KU again, as awkward as ever. The child should really give him some acting lessons!!! ((giggles)))

hoosierlady said...

You hit the nail on the head, Maclen. No way do they not know, of course they give consent. How quickly do pictures and video disappear when they are unflattering?

Can't have it both ways.

blue sky said...

Anybody notice that Keith never turns his back to the camera? Ellen is behind him and off to the side. You would think he would face towards her during the conversation, but he stays in full frontal view of the camera.

maclen said...

Yes Hatti, it was a simple set up photo op...simply for orb to try and exploit PR baby #1.

hoosierlady said...
"You hit the nail on the head, Maclen. No way do they not know, of course they give consent. How quickly do pictures and video disappear when they are unflattering?
Can't have it both ways."

Hey hoosier! Good to see you on the thread ...long time no read! Yeah, celebs pay a truck load of people to make sure the "opportunities" are all taken advantage of. Not to say they are all very successful at it though! It's apparent...now that kidman has BRAND NEW PR baby #2...orb is given the chance for some "quality" PR time with PR baby #1. THough it has been proven that PR baby #1 is a PR dud...and perhaps because even the very dense orb has realized that kidman also has proven to be a cd selling flop...he now only has PR baby #1 to try and flog his dismal cd.

A440 said...

Keith may have been aware of the camera, but certainly Sunday was not. And I quite enjoyed the ease she showed when interacting with both the band members and Keith.

She went easily into his arms, behaved herself while being introduced to Ellen and was comfortable all around.

Go to the very last seconds of the video. She's not only playing with his shirt, she's playing with his FACE. And he doesn't remove her hand, so HE'S comfortable with her doing that. They've established their shorthand with each other. So it looks like father and daughter have done this a lot.

maclen said...

Now, as to the "interaction" between father and dauughter...there is certainly ALOT lacking there. When orb finally exits and kneels in front of little sunry...many have mentioned...and it is true...sunry DOES NOT seem AT ALL excited to see the orb. ORb is clearly speaking to her...but not much reaction. Now, notice when sunry finally stands...she turns her back to orb and seems to be trying to get something from under that platform she was sitting on...and then orb stands up and turns around...at the 10:43 mark on the video...he looks at the guy standing behind him...and he gives a little head tilt...almost as if he is dumfounded by sunry's "indifference" to him! Then when Ellen appears, the aide/nanny takes little sunry's hand and leads her toward orb and ellen...and sunry reaches for orb's hand...and she clearly indicates that she wants them to "swing" her, at the 10:54 mark...but that only lasts about HALF A SECOND...when orb grabs her other hand and puts her in his arms! No playful swinging for little sunry! And not much 'interaction" between them when ellen leaves...little sunry seems interested by something as she points...twice... to something behind orb...but he is simply ignoring her. This is EXACTLY the interaction between them I would have expected...as I'm sure orb RARELY interacts with sunry...who is basically handled by a gaggle of aides/nannies!

Hatti said...

Yes maclen, I seem to have witnessed the same behavior. It seemed she was interested in a man with a black hat coming up behind KU. I did not see her do much interacting with KU. It seemed he was trying to coax her to be more forthcoming. It is very obvious this little girl is at ease with strangers. She is constantly with them. How many nannies has she had in her short almost three years.


If this was to let people know KU has Sunday while Moosie girl is off doing her HBO thing, it didn't come off very well. It told me that he is not at home much!! ((giggles)))

maclen said...

Hatti said...
"Yes maclen, I seem to have witnessed the same behavior. It seemed she was interested in a man with a black hat coming up behind KU."

Yeah Hatti, seemingly...now that orb has little sunry at his disposal for PR...it would be interesting if justjared or gossip girls get any arranged photo ops? Personally, considering JJ and GG are kidman's territory...I would bet against it.

maclen said...

So, here...we have basically a confirmation of the new "PR accomidations" for orb and kidman...

http://www.cmt.com/news/cmt-offstage/1661110/offstage-keith-urban-loves-watching-the-love.jhtml

OFFSTAGE: Keith Urban Loves Watching the Love

"In this too-short-but-very-sweet video interview with People, Keith Urban gushes about family life. Not just about having two gorgeous baby girls at home but about watching the other gorgeous girl in his life (Nicole Kidman) with their daughters. And when he starts talking about their youngest baby, Faith, you can feel the love. Urban says, "Just to see Nic with her ... seeing the two of them together is really extraordinary. I almost feel, as a dad, sometimes that's the bit that we get. We don't have that maternal bonding with our child like a mother does. But to watch these two people in love together like that is really beautiful." He adds that having kids late in life has been a real blessing. "The timing is perfect," he said. "What I love most about it is I love seeing them start to come alive."

So, as the "trend" I mentioned...orb now has PR baby #1 for his own personal use...he now must push the PR BS for kidman and her brand new PR baby #2! Orb EVEN disses HIMSELF....and other fathers out there...claiming that they DONT have the "maternal bonding" that mothers...and presumably kidman has with the children! Hey dimwit...rube...what about "paternal bonding?" Is kidman going to shill YOUR "PATERNAL BONDING" with PR baby #1? Not likely einstein! Their PR BS is predictable....and rather embarrassing to people who can see it...and point it out. Check out the original video over at People.com...

http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20478182,00.html

KEITH URBAN CAN'T IMAGINE HIS LIFE WITHOUT HIS KIDS

...notice the title is "cant imagine his life WITHOUT HIS KIDS"...and NO LONGER..."cant imagine his life WITHOUT KIDMAN" For you see, kidman IS NO LONGER a successful selling point for orb! Just a PR baby #1 is no longer a successful selling point for kidman...orb can now have her...and kidman has now moved onto PR bab #2!

Jake said...

I guess the three new unreleased songs on Youtube are the start of something new. Sure does fall right in stride with...he cant imagine his like without his kids!!

I will have to check out the links and post them for you....very interesting.

Hatti said...

Yes maclen...There most definitely is paternal bonding if a man wants to go the mile!! I personally don't see KU out of his own ID to be able to bond with anyone no less a child. Any child!!

This is another CD album cover aimed at the fans. Vote for me I'm a tortured sole that is just trying to find my way in this new world of fatherhood. Give me a break!! ((giggles)))

Oh Jake I have the link to those youtubes here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6asm5O9BhfE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?vHC_vut9BQ

in the last one on the right side is (Man in Me) oh please he is really a drama queen!!!

maclen said...

Hatti said...
"Yes maclen...There most definitely is paternal bonding if a man wants to go the mile!! I personally don't see KU out of his own ID to be able to bond with anyone no less a child. Any child!!"

Yeah Hatti...THERE IS NO bonding between orb and sunry that you can see in that webcam video. She was simply there for the photo op. I'm not buying all "cd shilling" BS.

Jake said...

Looks like he is digging deep. Not going to help. I got the feeling he is so over and Pork Chop is not far behind! LOL

Tara said...

I don't think he is over but he can't keep going with the pattern he has been. He needs to be more of an artist and less of a celebrity.

Hatti said...

Well I will agree with that. He should be more of an artist. But it looks like celebrity is where KU wants to be !!

maclen said...

Tara said...
"I don't think he is over but he can't keep going with the pattern he has been. He needs to be more of an artist and less of a celebrity."

Yes, Tara...THAT IS the perfect description of what has occured to the orb! Instead of having quality music to speak for itself, he's become foolishly preoccupied with kidman's brand of PR BS! Shilling his marriage and kids is simply tabloid fodder. And NO ONE...outside of his already devoted fansies...care that he's now become completely "domesticated." Most people WOULD be impressed...IF it involved cattle and sheep...but if it involves a "domesticated monkey"...they would simply prefer that he smokes cigars...or at least roller skates for their amusement!

maclen said...

So, the ACM's are done...and not surprising...orb won...nothing! Clearly, the "monkey brigade" no longer have the numbers to get him the awards, huh? Despite their no doubt "robo-voting"...he had a 0-fer tonight. Perhaps his fansie site shutting off their message boards to any but their fansie's eyes wasnt a good idea after all! It would seem, after a quick little wiki check...if not for the "dilluted" country Grammy...orb would of had a total "0-fer" this awards season. I bet those monkey shutins must be utterly having fits! And really, how many more years are the grammys going to just hand orb that statue?

maclen said...

...prepost scripted"...

...just another thought...how ironic...after a few years now of orb trying for "crossover" appeal into the pop landscape...the ACM's would go SO overtly and blatantly going for some of that crossover appeal. What with steven tyler performing with underwood...rhianna performing...pattinson and witherspoon presenting...the orb was simply utterly left out! No doubt orb's bestie...the Napalm... was too busy to appear with the orb!

Tara said...

The country awards were disgusting.
You can tell its a Dick Clark production His protege/former whatever Seacrest was there to give ETOY???? The American Music Awards are floundering so lets spread the crap to the awards show that has ratings. And were there awards? Oh yeah a few here and there. Yuck!

As for Mr. Urban, did they change the video (great idea Katy Perry had at the Grammys btw to use footage from her life) but then I may have been blinded by the orange glow coming off of him.

Keith - Is Sunday watching Willy Wonka these days? Ooompa Looma.

maclen said...

Yeah you are right about that, tara...no doubt... Clark production's version of Country gumbo. A little bit of rhianna, witherspoon and pattinson. But at least they WERE there for a reason, unlike kidman who was simply a seat warmer. And besides getting up to perform once...orb WAS pretty much warming his seat most of the night!

Hatti said...

Oh yes, Moosie girl had to be there in all her snake and monkey glory!! What an awful get up!! Now I have to say KU looked pretty good. If he could have removed his head from his benenfactor's backside long enough everyone could see that he looked nice his his suit!! I have a feeling that tan is from the tip of his nose and just keeps running!! /Sorry YUCK!!! ((giggles)))

Hatti said...

Oh maclen....Anything about his mini concert at Ace Hardware in Chicago? I just see this as his future! Boy what an international star! ((NOT)) ((giggles))))

SkepticRN said...

Plucked from CDAN a gem of a non-blind located under the comments Hagmaw's and the Orb's picture from last night....



Himmmm said.....
"I was actually AT those awards! If I knew how to write a blind - instead of just blabbing? I'd do it.
Like this: Which married Aussie actress wife whose name rhymes with "Petrol Did-men" was caught in the VIP loo during the awards - doing something very naughty with another FEMALE? The girl who interrupted them (my date) said the actress claimed to be "adjusting the hem" of her gal-pals dress. Which might pass - except their lipstick lips were smeared and hemlines don't get adjusted in the "crotch-eral region"!

See how bad I suck at that?

Speaking of sucking? You'd have thought it was a Hee-Haw Hoover convention at the SONY after party. Like a bad 80s Miami Vice episode. That country music cowboy (with a wife similar to a George Michael song title) should lay off the blow and spend his cash on rogaine instead. Coke surely doesn't make him skinny! Wonder why his singing wife is so skinny huh? I bet their church-going Oprah Army fans would revolt if they knew!

I'm off to hide in a cave for the next 3 years now! Bye!!"

2:13 PM

maclen said...

Hatti said...
"Oh maclen....Anything about his mini concert at Ace Hardware in Chicago? I just see this as his future! Boy what an international star! ((NOT)) ((giggles))))"

Well Hatti, HE IS the "international star" of OZ and Canada...and when he's in Oz or Canada...he's the international star from the US! Even in that brag, the orb is pathetic..."Mr international" has a rather SMALL world! Swifty on the ACM's last night mentions just flying in from China...she has just finished touring....Singapore, South Korea,
Japan, Philippines, Hong Kong, Belgium, Holland, Norway, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, UK Ireland! It looks like Paisley will be going to the UK, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, Demark...that really makes orb's canada and oz look puny. Honestly, I dont think orb can afford to tour europe anyways. As Ive mentioned before, the true reason he began his tour so late is the monetary issue.

maclen said...

So, here's orb continueing to shovel it...

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/keith-urban-lives-normal-life_1211166

Keith Urban - Keith Urban Lives 'Normal' Life

"Keith Urban says he and wife Nicole Kidman enjoy a ''normal life'' in Nashville away from the bright lights of Hollywood.

...yeah, that's why the pic is of mutt and jeff on the redcarpet of a film premiere in NY...and spent the first 3 months of this year...at the Golden globe awards...the Spirit indie awards...the SAG awards...the oscar awards...the grammy awards...ALL IN HOLLYWOOD! It is because of this BS...that no one is interested in what these two hacks are trying to sell!

Tara said...

Kidman has been in California since earlier this year. Keith drops in on Nashville but I don't think you can say either really live there.

But maybe when you are one of the monied elite you can say you live anywhere.

I bet Kidman is passing a brick looking at the ratings Katie Holmes is getting for her mini series? While an HBO film has a certain air to it and she will probably get an Emmy Nod will it be popular?

I saw a blurb on another site where
Kidman apparently was meeting with real folks- something her husband is quite good at and something that it is rumored she discouraged him from doing. Kidman is now pressing the flesh with the little people. It still doesn't take away from her icy persona does it?

Anyone else see the picture of Keith sitting between Kidman and Underpants? If only he would write a book!

Hatti said...

maclen...I heard that KU is using Live Nations for his promoting I guess everyone in country use them? I am not well versed in the way this works so I thought I would ask you. Have you heard that KU is being paid up front by the promotors. So he is getting paid before he does the concert?

I can understand if KU has a contract to guarantee a certain amount of seats. But I hear LN is required to fill the concert seats? I'm sorry I don't have a good understanding of how this works.

I'm sure you can explain so even a novice can understand. :)

maclen said...

Hatti said...
"maclen...I heard that KU is using Live Nations for his promoting I guess everyone in country use them? I am not well versed in the way this works so I thought I would ask you. Have you heard that KU is being paid up front by the promotors. So he is getting paid before he does the concert?"

No, Hatti, I had not heard that. Although it wouldnt surprise me if orb WAS simply getting a "flat rate" for this years tour! Clearly based on his continued weak sales the past 5 years...I fully expected that capnash would be rid of orb...I only expected it to occur after his declining sales of his cd whole crazy in 2007. But when 2009's defying sales cd sold even worse...that was the last straw! Now capnash is simply distributing orb's latest cd...that could simply be a stipulation of closing out orbs recording contract with them. It will be interesting to take note if capnash will once again "distribute" orb's next cd! Now as for LIve nation ticketmaster...(apparently they merged with Ticketmaster...notorious for their clear "ticket scalping" schemes with most country stars...orb included)...it seems in the past they handled orb's live tour at least since 2009...but orb still being signed with capnash...it was they who no doubt handled the promotion. But agian, orb is NOT in a very strong postition...so a deal by orb with live nation you mention may be true. A concert tour is a microcosm of a company. There are costs...expenditures...salerys...taxes...yada yada. Orb is NOT going to fund the tour...but was he desperate enough to simply take a flat fee for the tour, with maybe live nation taking a huge piece of the pie...handing the tour...and also the promtion? I would believe it!

Jake said...

This was a smart move by Urban. He knows he wont make any money off this tour so he gets what he gets.

I guess Pork Chop is done paying for her personal PR. LOL

Hatti said...

Thanks maclen for explaining it so clearly. I do think it shows that he is not getting carte blanc from Moosie girl any longer. I guess the record label broke her pocketbook and she would have been better off to push her own career instead of trying to look like a saviour to a person that does not ring true.

If he knew anything about rehab and how it works he would not have taken another performer's discription of how he received an intervention and would have easily been able to explain the truth.

So all the phoney baloney didn't pay off for her did it?? ((giggles)))

Tara said...

oh give that woman a break- she has been buying him for six years the money can't last forever.

Hatti said...

((giggles))) Your right Tara!! I think hes got more of her money than she does!! ((giggles)))

maclen said...

Hatti said...
"Thanks maclen for explaining it so clearly. I do think it shows that he is not getting carte blanc from Moosie girl any longer. I guess the record label broke her pocketbook and she would have been better off to push her own career instead of trying to look like a saviour to a person that does not ring true."

Well, ultimately Hatti, it is pretty clear that he is NOT in as good a position as he once was of course. The way I see it, he begins to falter in one area...eventually other areas begin to get affected. His appeal with his fansie's was clearly affected when he hooked up with kidman and it's all been snowballing ever since.

maclen said...

So, taking a look at last weeks cd sales...

http://www.roughstock.com/blog/aldean-remains-1-on-album-charts-this-week

26 23 Jason Aldean My Kinda Party 19,251 1,018,862

28 28 Zac Brown Band You Get What You Give 16,763 804,005

30 30 Rascal Flatts Nothing Like This 15,714 735,349

33 33 Taylor Swift Speak Now 14,753 3,301,720

34 35 Lady Antebellum Need You Now 14,644 3,402,054

65 53 Miranda Lambert Revolution 11,020 1,253,066

128 124 Keith Urban Get Closer 4,788 563,618

...as I posted earlier, orb's "bump" after his appearance on the Tonight show was minus 36 cds sold...now this week after appearing on Ellen degeneres, orb ACTUALLY DID get a sales bump...OF 580 more cds sold! WOW, that is SOME IMPRESSIVE BUMP! Orb may actually now make it to sales of one mill...in only 2 years and 2 and a half months! Ha!

maclen said...

HA! Well...this IS NOT VERY GOOD NEWS for the orb...

http://blog.gactv.com/blog/2011/04/07/grammy%C2%AE-cuts-4-country-award-categories/

GRAMMY® Cuts 4 Country Award Categories

"The Recording Academy® (www.grammy.com) announced yesterday that it has restructured the GRAMMY® categories across all genres and fields, bringing the total number of categories to be recognized at the 54th GRAMMY Awards in 2012, to 78 (from 109). All fields remain the same.
What does this mean for country music? Here is the revamped country category list: Best Country Solo Performance; Best Country Duo/Group Performance; Best Country Song; and Best Country Album.

Missing for next year and onward are the following categories: Best Country Instrumental Performance; Best Country Collaboration with Vocal; Best Male Country Vocal Performance; and Best Female Country Vocal Performance."

So, what exactly does this mean to orb...from the "VERY ORB FRIENDLY" Grammys? Basically, it means that orb will no longer simply be placed in the "Male Vocal performance" category...where he was placed along side the likes of jamey johnson, tobey keith, david nail and chris young...BUT...will now have to complete...IF he's nominatied again...for Best Country SONG AND ALBUM...no doubt against the likes of lady ant, underwood swify, lambert...aldrean...paisley...etc. And as I've pointed out, orb aint exactly very strong in the song and album categories...is he? CAn orb even get a nom in ANY category for Get! Loser!?