Saturday, February 16, 2008

Healthy Debate About What?

Do the detractors of this blog actually think we WANT to talk about Keith Urban's private life? The entire concept of the skeptical fan came about because the skeptics saw that with the addition of Nicole Kidman in the mix Keith Urban’s music was lost. Skeptics saw how Kidman and her people manipulate the media, fans, and perceptions to get the correct story out.

The correct story is of course all about Nicole Kidman and whatever she wants it to be. What happened in the course of the media onslaught in 2005, 2006 and 2007 is that Keith Urban, the man, came under examination. Rocks were overturned, created personas were exposed and a lot of stories that really were no one’s business became fodder. Why? Because this keeps Nicole in the news. Poor, sad, pathetic Keith was lonely and unpopular before Kidman entrapped him in her platinum thighs. The player was played and rehab was needed to either keep Keith sober for Nicole, keep very dark stories from being exposed to keep Nicole in her saintly state, or to give Keith an opportunity to rebuild himself into someone who is worthy of Nicole. Listen to the comments from the man himself in the last twelve months and I just bet you can see which one I think happened.

Do you really want to talk about his tours for Golden Road and '04? Hasn't there been enough speculation about why he fired his entire band? This writer doesn't care if he spent 1997-2006 in a drug induced stupor. Does that sound heartless? No. Because he never once made it any of our business that he was in this state. He had boundaries. We the fans were there for the show and the fantasy. Yep, the fantasy. I liked thinking he was desirable. That’s why any popular figure is popular; there is a degree of desirability to them. Kidman destroyed that by bringing in her own myth makers and what was a respectful distant relationship between Keith and his fans became a very intrusive speculative one on both sides. Camp Kidman wants to know what the hell these fans want from him. You could see in November 2007 at the CMA’s when Kidman looked so very uncomfortable palming the flesh outside the awards show. She looked that way in October at the Arias, too, except that she used that occasion to parade in the see-through dress and have the photographers get their shots so that her image as supportive wife could be seen all over the world. Of course by the time those pictures came out the skeptics knew she was really just trying to make herself look younger and to show off her new cleavage which a year earlier wasn’t there. Now being blamed on the baby, the boobs actually made their appearance in the spring of 2007. I would say that sometime between lasik surgery and the start of the filming of the epic the girls got a bit bigger. Yet, who cares if she did? Kidman does. She wants you to care about her pregnancy, about her looks, about a stupid story of when Keith got branded with her name. It’s all about the fame. The drug of fame and that is why no one in the outside world knows Keith Urban beyond marrying and impregnating Kidman. You wonder why the music is lost? Because she couldn't give a f**k about the music. She is his savior.

So you think it’s all about him trying to figure out a marriage and now fatherhood? He knows who he is. If Keith Urban were honest and he really did talk about what his personal life was really like in his music, he would be a superstar on his own. Nicole wouldn't like that at all, now would she?

99 comments:

maclen said...

It is certainly reasonable to believe that kidman has ruined urban's career. It wouldnt exactly be the first time that a celeb pairing has derailed more than a few careers...recall that whole meg ryan/ russell crowe fling... sure, ryan may have been privately seperated from Quade already by that point, but that is what the public perception became, thus ryan never recovered from it. And that is what it is about with celebs who cater attention in an attempt to get you to buy movie tickets or buy cds, publicity. Fans faulting urban for becoming involved with kidman, whose idea of blurring personal and private PR may be too contrived and too disingenuous, or simply too cynically disregarding of reality for the masses of former fans who seem to have forsaken urban recent "endeavers." This blog is for those who feel that way, and all the rest just bore me to the end of my last waking and consious thought... yes, just like a kidman indie flick...ZZZZzzzzzzz......

Imahick said...

I have to agree with this blog. I have no idea if Keith loves NK or not...although I do think something fundamentally changed in rehab...but in the end, the pairing is going to be the end of his career as we know it.

That may be OK with him...he may have lost the drive as long as he is catering to the queen of Oz. He seems to have little interest and no ambition to succeed anymore. But ultimately, I think he'll regret this.

If anyone tries to argue that Keith's career is not deteriorating, PULEEZ don't bother. If you have any ability to look at this objectively, you will see that he has lost ground.

-No #1's since 2005
-Declining CD sales
-Failure to participate in many industry events
-No country award show winnings since 2006
-declining ticket sales

He is a phenomenal performer. He is ultra talented. But his heart isn't in it anymore.

If you don't see the control that NK has on him...how she manipulates him, how he appears at her beck & call, how he is p-whipped to the highest degree... then, you have a different perception than a whole lot of people. This control is a huge problem for Keith, who someday may wonder why he let it all slip through his fingers.

Keith is a big boy ... he is responsible for his own career ... but I fear that his addictive personality and his vulnerability since leaving rehab has placed him at a disadvantage. His dependence on NK as his savior (and that is clearly how he sees her) seems to have convinced him to sacrifice his career for her. NK on the other hand, has no intentions of making any concessions for him. That is clear by their failure to attend the Grammy's. Her supporters were convinced it was because she couldn't fly due to the hi risk pregnancy. Turns out that's not it...turns out for her own career, she can fly to LA. She couldn't go over to see her kids and support her husband a week ago, but now she can for her Hollywood persona.

Yep...the cold hard truth is that NK just didn't want to go to the Grammy's. She had a photo shoot...and although obviously it could have been re-scheduled, that wasn't important enough to her to go with Keith. Sadly, Keith is so p-whipped he decided to sit on her photo set and eat dust instead of attending the most important award show in music and accept his Grammy. We all know that if NK had said..."Let's go...I'll re-schedule this cause this is an important day for you"...it'd have been different. But that' isn't what happened. Even if she said he should go without her (and I don't think for a minute she would do that) he isn't going to leave her at this time. It was predictable that NK wasn't going to attend the Grammy's for her husband and he wasn't going to be subject to the criticism he would most certainly get by leaving her at this delicate time.

I knew he wouldn't go to the Grammy's because she wouldn't ... and I knew that she WOULD go to the Oscars and he'll be there leading her through the streets of LA showing off her bump.

She has him totally in her control and he has allowed it. It won't end well...she is too self centered and manipulative to be in a long term relationship. The sad thing is that a child is being brought into this union...and the pre-nup apparently gives total control of the child to NK. That right there is a tragedy, based on her total lack of consideration for her two kids with TC.

inittowinit said...

This is my first "comment" but I've been around for a long, long while. When this "arrangement" between the two of them begun, I believe she was in total control. Now, I'm not so sure. I think something changed during rehab. I'm not sure if she has control or if he has decided to willingly give in to her every whim. To me, it really wouldn't matter if he could keep it all separate. But - nonetheless, his career has taken a downward spin.

His shows are still good but the newer music isn't my fave (nor apparently anyone else's considering the lack of sales). All of the things that imahick have said regarding declining CD sales and the like, are true.

I blame Nicole Kidman for one thing - she hunted him, sought out a frail soul, and took a bite; but he's a smart guy. He is capable of making his own decisions and I do believe it's been his choice to stay. The question to me isn't who is responsible for these changes, but does he even care? Is his career still all that important? Does he want to put forth the effort required?

I believe he can come back - with or without her. I believe he can put out a new CD that is amazing. He still had talent and is capable of that. KUsnob has pointed out on this blog that most here know nothing about the music industry. I admit to being one of them. However, I know what I like and I know talent when I see it. Keith Urban is more talented than any performer I've ever seen - and I've seen many. He has the talent and I believe the ambition but does he have the desire anymore? That to me remains to be seen and I'm not sure it can be blamed on her. He's responsible for both his own actions and reactions and they have both played the biggest part in any decline of his career.

doublewide said...

great blog.....

i believe she studied him, and played him, and he bit.....

she doesn't give a flying fig about his career or his music. he is a means to an end for her. and like imahick, i don't think it will end well. i think it will matter to him, in the end, that he allowed her to derail his career. the thought of him being at her ridiculous photo shoot instead of at the grammys is sad and pitiful.

don't believe the lies said...

I agree with those posted before me. You would have to be blind, deaf and dumb to not notice a change in Keith, the music and his downward spiraling career. It's actually sad because the guy has more talent in his pinky than most people have in their whole being. It's a shame that it's not being put to good use.

ShutUpAndSing said...

Well said imahick, double wide, don't believe the lies and inittowinit. As fans of Keith, you said every thing I've been feelings.

I think the next CD will be very telling.

Welcome imittowin

banbotox said...

Great blog UM!!

I so agree, shutupandsing, the next cd-if there ever is one-will be very telling. But don't hold your breath for it-you'll pass out before it ever hits the market. kidman has him too busy purse holding and flying around the world to allow for anything creative on his part.

Exactly imahick, nothing to argue with your objective facts. It is what it is.

He is a phenomenal performer and his stage presence is undeniable. All that hard work combined with his God given talent is being shoved to the side for the circus life he's involved in now. I hope he wakes up and takes back control from the clown before it's too late.

notachance said...

So glad to be of service to UM. Your welcome. I'm sure this blog would be boring as all get out without people like me who can offer up something other than the same ole', same ole' of the UM Mantra. Funny, but your current title is spurring just that - debate.


Oh and maclen - sorry if we just bore you to the end of your last waking & consious thought. Hmmmm... I would've thought everyone saying the same EXACT thing day in and day out would be the boring thing - like all the UM skeptics do. I know I'm certainly not bored by you skeptics, if anything I find you amusing, frustrating at times and sometimes so fanatic in your fervor that I believe you are the evil twin to the bunnies you so despise.

inittowinit said...

ShutUpAndSing said...
Welcome imittowin

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Thank you. It's good to be here. I've been reading since the beginning and finally took the plunge.

Arms of Hairy Mary said...

Of course a skeptic would agree with what the writer wrote. It wouldn't follow the code of skeptic conduct if the cult minions disagreed with your insane assessment of the situation. Though....I would have to admit I'm a bit shocked you admitted to finding Keith Urban desirable and what was it you stated you were drawn to him because he has...."A degree of desirability" And yes is a "fantasy" for you. That's the first step in admitting that this whole debate, heck this whole blog was devised as a result of your failure to capture Keith as your own. Again, we're back to blaming the wife, who happens to be a wee more famous than her husband.

Somehow, I think if Keith ended up with a "nobody in the entertainment world" you and your cult would blame her too!

Are you sure you guys aren't part of Tom's plan to rid the world of non-believing Scientologists? Makes one wonder what your real motives are.

KUsnob said...

Opening Blog says....
Do the detractors of this blog actually think we WANT to talk about Keith Urban's private life?
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I'm sure you don't you just speculate about conversations regarding trips to the Grammy's, photos of what someone might be thinking, the relationship in general, the sperm donor, the fakeness of the whole thing, her total control of their marriage, and everything else.

So the fact that you can't admit that Keith is the product of his own demise and not her is not acceptable to you. So, you continue to believe that she is the ruler and that you DON'T speculate, brainstorm, consider, contemplate, deliberate, guesstimate, hypothesize, kick around, make up, scheme, suppose, surmise, suspect, theorize, weigh & wonder how she has destroyed his perfect career, album sales, concert tickets, merch, and anything else.

I bet though those tabloids appreicate your purchases to help theorize your blog stories & fantasies.

BTW, which one of you is out there in Australia clocking her on her 3 hour tennis matches? Or has a copy of her day planner? Because you've yet to prove ANYTHING in your blog from day one.

isitoveryet said...

So who believes the latest and greatest epic written by Wendy Day? Keith didn't make it to the Grammys because Marienne is sick. So tell me again why he was on some remote location for a photo shoot for his wife while Marienne is sick?

ShutUpAndSing said...

Well AOHM..

I was agreeing with things like he is an amazing performer. For me there is no one like him. And just because he might be a fantasy doesn't you want him in real life.

And he did lose his momentum after winning ETOY. That is just a fact! What a freakin waste. I somewhat liked Love Pain but 18 kids was just a joke. He couldn't be bothered. We know what that man is capable of.

And yes in the end this is Keith's fault. But I am sure if Nicold hadn't been in the picture things would be much different. And I believe that you are wrong about if he were married to a nobody. I didn't care when he was with Nikki and Laura. We didn't know what went on in their lives. We didn't know where they eat or what concert they went to. We also didn't have to hear the dedication of how they changed his life nor the contradications in their stories.

I am still here and I am still going to shows but not as many as I have in the past. I will always be grateful for the fun times and my new friends. Things that I would never had if I had never found Keith.

Only time will tell if I will be round for another concert tour. I sure hope so but again I think there will be alot riding on the new CD.. whenever that will be..

inittowinit said...

KUsnob said...
....So the fact that you can't admit that Keith is the product of his own demise and not her is not acceptable to you.
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Personally, I think he is the product of his own demise because he is a big boy who can make and has made his own choices. As I said earlier, I only blame her for seeking him out and taking a bite but I think everything since then has been by his own accord. I do however, think that from the beginning, she researched and sought out someone who would behave exactly the way he has and that is wrong of her. I think she's been manipulative but the ultimate decisions have been his own. I think something happened during rehab to make him determined to stay.

I may speculate and brainstorm, but personally, I have not once "made up" anything on any board. But speculation is all I have - he seems to say one thing and then do another - they SAY he got a tat for her on Christmas Eve - there were earlier pictures to the contrary. He says he won't talk about his peronal life, yet he does. He says he will mix up this tour and from his own mouth "even add a song or two from the ranch" and yet the shows are exactly the same night after night. He gives reason to speculate. They say they are so balanced, earthy, and happy - yet the pictures prove otherwise. IMO if he appeared happy, there would be no reason for speculation. Artists get married - they move on - and their careers change. I for one could accept that in Keith Urban if he was really moving on to a life he seemed to be wanting and desiring. He hasn't shown me that yet, and personally, I'm still not sure if he has decided what it is that he wants or how to balance more than one thing at a time. He seems to be staying but I can't tell if it's because he wants to, needs to, or feels it's just the right thing to do - and all I can do is speculate because he tels us he is happy, but he has said so many other things that are very untrue.

notachance said...

The real truth is if the media circus wasn't so concerned with her, and you can speculate all you want about how that comes into play, they/he would be like those others that seem to have a "different" life outside of their work. A life, that you, the skeptics, think he should have.

banbotox said...

well, well, well, we sure did hit a nerve here at the blog.
It's a shame you guys just can't admit that kidman isn't perfect and that she has a behemoth ego that needs constant feeding and watering.

inittowinit said...

VERY untrue, Notachance. Look at Brangalina. They are able to lead a "different" life outside of work, yet the media are still very much interested in them and their 27 children. There can be media interest yet still live a private, normal life. The media circus is a choice by her and something to which he seems has grown accustomed.

And you add that we, the skeptics, think he should have a "different" life outside of work as if we are the only ones and as if that is such an unreasonable expectation. Isn't it normal to have a life outside of work? Isn't it normal for that life to be different? My husband and I both have very professional occupations, yet we have children and a close family. I can't imagine NOT keeping our work-life separate. So yeah, I don't think that's so terrible to want that normalcy for him too, along with every other working individual.

maclen said...

isitoveryet said...
"So who believes the latest and greatest epic written by Wendy Day? Keith didn't make it to the Grammys because Marienne is sick. So tell me again why he was on some remote location for a photo shoot for his wife while Marienne is sick?"

Yes, you can add that to the long and growing list of contrived, disingenuous, and just cynical disregard of the reality to be believable. Not very surprised also, that it seems Day, kidmans PR hack is now speaking for urban. I only wonder if urban was even told about the excuse, as I wouldnt be surprised yet, if urban were to give a differect answer if asked..not that anyone would bother to ask him anymore. It looks like the urban "persona" takeover by kidman is almost complete. Next, he'll be putting out a cover of "standards"... you know, Bacharach, show tunes, etc... and of course who could forget, a cover of sinatra's "Something Stupid"... that'll make him a real "hep cat!

notachance said...

"VERY untrue, Notachance. Look at Brangalina. They are able to lead a "different" life outside of work, yet the media are still very much interested in them and their 27 children. There can be media interest yet still live a private, normal life. The media circus is a choice by her and something to which he seems has grown accustomed."

Really inittowinit - you really think that Brangelina not being photog'd by choice?? I recall quite well how Jen's fans felt about THAT relationship and the pictures, oh so constant pictures, that emerged. Brangelina is high profile, just like KUNK - only their combined names sound better. Their life outside of work is just as much a media circus as Keith's, their private life is on display.

You totally missed my point. Maybe if you'd used someone like Brad Paisley then you might have an argument, however that said - Kimberly Williams is not the level (and I do not mean quality) actress that NK is. Her & Brad ARE afforded their privacy because she is not considered an "A" lister.

inittowinit said...

February 17, 2008 2:34 PM
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No, I didn't miss your point, unless you just didn't know how to make one. You said that If the media circus wasn't concerned with her, they/he would be like those others that seem to have a "different" life outside of their work. I didn't use Brad as an example because the media circus isn't interested in Kimberly. I used Brangalina, justifiably, because the media circus IS interested in them. It had nothing to do with why. Yes, we see pictures of Brangalina and often - but do we see them every time they go out to dinner or every concert, or for coffee? Did we have to see pictures of her birthday fireworks after telling the world they had a "private affair"? No. They are able to do those things alone and have a private life with their family because they chose to. For Nicole Kidman, since her career is going south along with her face, she needs the media's constant attention. Therefore, making it public that they attend a concert or have a cup of coffee are inportant to her and therefore, bring their private lifes tightly connected to their work. Perhaps you missed MY point.

banbotox said...

notachance said...Her & Brad ARE afforded their privacy because she is not considered an "A" lister.

It could also be that they don't call the paps every time they go out in public for those "random oh so candid shots."

inittowinit said...

Artists call the paps all the time - and yes, I do agree that Brangalina have a firm hand in that. I believe they do use certain instances in their private lives to share. But we don't hear or see most every event displayed. They are able to remain very high profile in the media without having to share every private event. THAT is the difference and THAT was the debate - whether or not KUNK is capable of remaining in the media and have a "different" life outside of work. Yes, it's possible to do that if they so CHOSE.

White Trash said...

Healthy Debate? What's so healthy about picking apart people in the public eye?

Imahick said...

White Trash...I would prefer to read about celebrities than the nasty comments some of the people on here write about other posters. Kusnob and Arms of Hairy Mary lose all credibility because of their attacks on other posters instead of posting on topic. I believe that point is lost on most of the "supporters." It's rare for them to express an opinion without attacking others.

As far as Keith and NK not attending the Grammy's so they could visit Marienne ... not believing that. I hope it's not true, first of all, as I admire his Mum and hope she is well. But does anyone truly think that Keith and the Queen of Australia could fly to Queensland, visit his Mum and return to Sydney without any pictures or hoopla?? I don't.

And if his Mum is sick enough to warrent a cancellation of his attendance at the Grammy's ... why wasn't he with her rather than eating dust on NK's photo shoot, while carrying her sweater and likely her feminine hygeine spray. Seriously...would you not be with your Mother if she was ill enough to cancel your appearance at the Grammy's, instead of on your wife's photo shoot?

Wendy Day is a heck of an "image" maker...that's all I have to say.

doublewide said...

welcome inittowinit! so glad you decided to join us and post!

getaholdofurself said...

notachance said...
"...Oh and maclen - sorry if we just bore you to the end of your last waking & consious thought. Hmmmm... I would've thought everyone saying the same EXACT thing day in and day out would be the boring thing - like all the UM skeptics do. I know I'm certainly not bored by you skeptics, if anything I find you amusing, frustrating at times and sometimes so fanatic in your fervor that I believe you are the evil twin to the bunnies you so despise."

i agree. if the skeptics weren't looking to debate and/or convince, there would be no need for this blog. they've made it quite clear they have a place(s) of their own where they can carry on uninterrupted.

i find myself somewhere between the so called bunnies and many of the skeptics, both of which are over the top. while i don't believe nicole is perfect, i also don't believe she's to blame. change was inevitable and, like it or not, keith allowed it or he's a willing participant.

Urban Myths said...

The intent of this blog from day one, which as a matter of fact was January 4, 2007, was to expose what a lying, manipulative, famewhore Nicole Kidman is. It is the choice of the non-skeptics to bring Keith into the debate.

maclen said...

That's very interesting Urban Myths, so I went back through the archives and read the very first blog entry... titled..."American Fans Want Urban to Dump Kidman." Well thats pretty straightforward, isnt it? And the title of this blog entry..."Healthy Debate About What?"... it seems a few commenters have misinterpreted what you mean by it.

realitycheck said...

"It is the choice of the non-skeptics to bring Keith into the debate."

Thats funny UMyths considering at the top of the blog in big letters is plastered Shut Up & Sing, Keith We Don't Want To Hear About "YOUR WIFE"

Keith was/is always at the center of this. Its so damn obvious this blog wouldnt exist if Keith Urban hadnt met Nicole Kidman.

inittowinit said...

realitycheck said...
Its so damn obvious this blog wouldnt exist if Keith Urban hadnt met Nicole Kidman.


Really? Well duh!

notachance said...

"The intent of this blog from day one, which as a matter of fact was January 4, 2007, was to expose what a lying, manipulative, famewhore Nicole Kidman is. It is the choice of the non-skeptics to bring Keith into the debate."

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REALLY UM?? Now that's just laughable. For what purpose would you even WANT to expose all those lovely traits other than the fact that she is married to your favorite guy - therefore he MUST be part of the debate. You can't have one without the other.

Maybe you've mistaken this blog for the "I Hate Nicole Kidman" blog or "Nicole Kidman's Forehead" blog. Now those really do have nothing to do with Keith, as their creator started those out of a hatred of NK alone - but UM, whether it be a skeptic message board or a blog, was created around Keith and the fact that he started dating her and subsequently married her.

See what wearing blinders does to you? You can't even see your own mission anymore.

KUsnob said...

No doubt, considering that the name of the blog is URBAN MYTHS, how could this blog NOT be about KEITH URBAN!
And you all thought I was annoying. I'll say this, atleast I make sense.

Just admit defeat, admit that you can't have a healthy debate about his career, because you know that the downfall clearly has nothing to do with her.

getaholdofurself said...

hmmm ... this place derailed rather quickly then. i went back and read several blogs from the first few months. within weeks, keith was being referred to as keith "kidman" and his marriage was merely a means to an end (what a great guy). as others have pointed out, if the original intent was to expose the evils of nk, the name alone is an odd choice.

the blogger is articulate and entertaining, but the bottom line is there's no myth busting going on here. without credible sources, this place is just another rag.

White Trash said...

"the blogger is articulate and entertaining, but the bottom line is there's no myth busting going on here. without credible sources, this place is just another rag."

That about says it all, doesn't it?

Urban Myths, it appears your putting the proverbial foot in your skeptic piehole!

White Trash said...

IMAHICK said.."White Trash...I would prefer to read about celebrities than the nasty comments some of the people on here write about other posters. Kusnob and Arms of Hairy Mary lose all credibility because of their attacks on other posters instead of posting on topic. I believe that point is lost on most of the "supporters." It's rare for them to express an opinion without attacking others."

I don't see them as attacking others, just merely stating the obvious. What you skeptics fail to see in your hatred of Nicole (I could care less about her other than Keith appears to be happy!) is that others may have a different point of view than your own. Healthy Debate - MY ASS!

doublewide said...

if you non skeptics think we're so non-creditable....then go elsewhere...the very fact that you keep ranting about us having no facts, and you keep coming back to post belies what you say.

and the fixation that there are or might be private boards just irritates you to no end, doesn't it?

back on topic, NK is a selfish, self absorbed, manipulative, controlling, self-serving, narcisistic old hag, who the general public just doesn't give a rip about.

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KUsnob said...

And doublewide, when did you become spokesperson for the general public? I only ask, because I see that there are these boards supporting Nicole, there are posters here who also support her, and there have to be more people in the general public who support her rather than despise her like you say. There are such things as the People's Choice awards, in which the general public are the voters and she's won awards. So, she must be perceived as someone good to somebody.

Now please don't misconstrue this as me defending her, because I've yet to do this on this blog in any of my post. I've merely argued the fact that Keith has been the sole contributor to his business decisions. I find it hard to believe that he has allowed her to control his every business decision, his personal life or his life in general.

In watching him for the last 10 years and his struggles, his career, his ups & his downs, this is his pattern. Regardless of how you see her, if you don't look directly at the man himself then that's your issue.

But to lie to yourselves and say this blog is about Nicole and only about Nicole, well...

AND I've NEVER personally attacked anyone, but if you like I will.

doublewide said...

typo in my previous post.....credible, not creditable.....

doublewide said...

I find it hard to believe that he has allowed her to control his every business decision, his personal life or his life in general.

i wouldn't be so sure about this....and maybe i should clarify my statement about the general public. when i ask people (and i've asked alot of them) what they think about NK, and these people aren't keith fans either....they say we don't care about her one way or the other. these people however, are more apt to keep up with tomkat, brangelina, britney, etc. they say they don't care about NK.....pardonne moi, kusnob.....i didn't realize the only expert about anything on here could be you.

isitoveryet said...

kusnob said:

I've merely argued the fact that Keith has been the sole contributor to his business decisions. I find it hard to believe that he has allowed her to control his every business decision, his personal life or his life in general.


You know that for a fact? Are you on his or her management team? I could easily hear her say "Look at where I am today!" I think Keith is a little starstruck by his wife and doesn't feel like he measures up to her career, so any advice she gives him, he listens.

KUsnob said...

I just said, that I found it hard to believe, not that I knew for a fact.

Jesus Christ! But atleast we're back on topic.

getaholdofurself said...

HA! i think you missed my point. i, for one, could care less about private boards ... rave on!

i read because i find the skeptics much more entertaining than the "bunnies," but make no mistake ... the skeptics are the flip side of that coin, which shouldn't go unchecked.

doublewide said...

well, i will have to agree that we are much more entertaining!

wastedemotion said...
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wastedemotion said...

kusnob-
I have to ask....do you really think keith has been the "sole contributor to his business decisions?"
Really?

maclen said...

That is an understatement doublewide. Which is the exact problem that urban has married himself into... kidmans movies are so very un-entertaining... pretentious, incoherant, and lacking of any kind of humor. Which precisly explains the collapse of her movie career. I doubt if urban can muster even the slightest level of sympathy when she now has to resort to the most shameless and obvious PR whoring just to keep herself on the attention radar screen. And of course it doesnt help that urban is seen to be just another tool for her... another obvious shill for a PR oportunist, playing along right there beside her shallow use of botox and collogen and boob job and see through dress... in an attempt to desperately remain a player. Is it any wonder or surprise to anyone that urbans fans are now beginning to drop him? But it is very telling of urbans mentality and level of self determination, or lack thereof, that he would now expect and hope that underwood and chesney will lift him out of the doldrums and fatal stagnation he placed himself by joining kidmans PR sideshow and snake oil sales... only problem for urban is that no one is buying anymore.

JapHal said...

I love this blog..

notachance said...

maclen - you speak with such "authority" about Keith's career, a career that you openly admit to knowing nothing about prior to his marriage with NK. Have you even been to a show? Not that I've seen you write about.

His shows are still pretty much the best of any out there - make no mistake about that. Go read all those reviews about the current tour, even though CU might be used to fill up the house, those folks are leaving eating out of KU's hands and will most certainly be back for more from him.

His career in the shitter? No, not really - he's raking in millions upon millions since he came back from rehab. Maybe he hasn't written at his best or taken advantage of that EOTY win, but he's far from being over. Just because there's a handful, yes, handful in the grand scheme of things, of folks in that vast ocean of fans that are choosing to stay away doesn't mean it's over for him. You place far too much importance on yourselves.

White Trash said...

I have to agree with NOTACHANCE. Who says his career is gone, he's washed up? Seems to me even though some (yes, you skeptics, along with others) didn't find his greatest hits worth the effort he's still certifying those platinum CD's and will probably continue to do so for quite some time.

What you skeptos fail to remember or maybe you weren't even there when Keith first hit the Nashville scene (I happen to be)....he brought country music to the masses. I'm not saying he single handedly changed country music into a genre to be reckoned with, but he made a major impact on getting country music noticed outside of hicktown. His music helped blur the lines between the different genres and still continues to do so. So before you start planning his funeral, better wait. I think there's certainly more to come.

KUsnob said...

And ETOY isn't given to Kenny Chesney because he's so great. It's because he brings along such great opening acts & ticket sales are through the roof. I've been to plenty of KC shows, but have never sat through his set once.

If you base everything on awards, Toby Keith's career should have been down the shitter almost from the beginning, since he hasn't won one.

And someone asked if I thought he was the sole decider in his business decisions, I believe that people present him with things and he makes the choice. I'm sure he has people in his ear helping him and I've made my point about his band in '04 but all in all, yes I believe that he makes the final decision. He may not decide what goes on the front of a tshirt, but for the all important things, he makes the decision.

I believe certain artists reach a status where they get to choose what goes on an album and what gets released and certain artists don't. So my belief is that Keith has reached that level. Let's see, Be Here, maybe they reached a level of decision making together but I totally think that Love, Pain singles were released by his choice. Because who else would have allowed Once in a Lifetime?

Either way, it doesn't fall on her shoulders because he's been making wrong decisions or doing things we haven't always thought were right for quite awhile now. And as much as we want to, none of us can reverse back before 2002 and reclaim that Keith and warn him of whats to come. But then again, none of you were there for that anyway.

maclen said...

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

isitoveryet said...

I was more impressed with Gary's performance when I saw the two of them performing last fall. I didn't want Gary to leave the stage. Due to my poor memory, I can't remember what chart I was looking at, but I believe Gary's latest hit was beating Urban's latest. Interesting - his opening act's latest hit is surpassing the headliner's. I was bored with Keith's performance. I have since seen opening acts that are headlining by themselves at night clubs and bars, and let me tell you, Urban is gonna have to fight some tough competiton in the next year or two if he doesn't start concentrating on his career -that's if he cares about his career!

notachance said...

maclen writes:

ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

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I don't doubt that you're falling asleep - since you have no knowledge of anything that's being discussed now, so I would assume you are bored. It's only when you can steer it to her do you have anything to say.

isitoveryet - Gary is a great performer, and I happen to have thought that for once (well, maybe twice - Pat Green being the first), that Keith made an excellent choice for a tour mate. However, Gary is nowhere near a point to fill an arena as a headliner and a beginner opening act. Don't get me wrong - I love Gary, but he still is not at Keith's level and does not have the mainstream appeal that Keith does.

And as for where your record is in the charts? That really holds no water to any argument about where a career is at - unless it never charted, and we all know Keith's did in the beginning, and all the singles have as well. Maybe they weren't #1's, but they still charted in Top 20 if I'm not mistaken. Not every song is a #1. We've already covered the writing was less than.

isitoveryet - Keith's will not be stepping down to headlining clubs - don't you worry about that. I'm sure he'd retire on top before that would happen.

doublewide said...

maclen, contrary to what some say on here YOU TOTALLY GET IT!!!!

inittowinit said...

notachance said...
... Go read all those reviews about the current tour, even though CU might be used to fill up the house, those folks are leaving eating out of KU's hands and will most certainly be back for more from him.
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If you had really read "ALL" of those reviews, you would have ended this sentence after the word leaving. But I didn't have to read the reviews - I saw that with my own eyes.

doublewide said...

If you had really read "ALL" of those reviews, you would have ended this sentence after the word leaving. But I didn't have to read the reviews - I saw that with my own eyes.

yep, i have a couple of friends that have been to these latest shows and people are leaving after carrie, and some are leaving 1/2 hour into keith's set. pretty pitiful

maclen said...

Yes, it is very natural for the devoted to suffer from denial when their idol is falling off the perch. Which of course leads to the usual bitter and over compensating excuses... the self consoling belief that somehow it will all be alright. I'm sure urban is suffering from it himslf.

realitycheck said...

maclen, i have to give you to credit where credit is due. You may not know enough about Keith, his career, or his history. But you sure know where to fit in. UMyths is a bloated excuse of a blog attempting to show "the truth" about Nicole Kidman. What myths have they busted? They keep perpetuating the the same stories, the same rumors. They even resort to the same vulgar nicknames by all the other skeptics on all the other boards. So maclen, who tries to sound knowledgeable when its obvious she isnt, posts here regularly. And why? Because the same people that love the self-important blogs on UMyths just eat up her high-and-mighty posts. Bravo maclen. I hope you enjoy the ego stroke.

notachance said...

"If you had really read "ALL" of those reviews, you would have ended this sentence after the word leaving. But I didn't have to read the reviews - I saw that with my own eyes."

I was referring mostly to the newspaper reviews, however the fan reviews that I've read were no different - but then maybe I'm not privy to the skeptical ones that would be skewed.

I am sure that there are some CU fans that don't stay, just like in the past there were Keith fans that left after he opened a show and didn't stay for the headliner. Somehow I doubt it's very many though that are actually leaving. I know that wasn't the case with Gary Allen opening, so it would have to be attributed solely to the opener in this case having a certain kind of fan that is not there for a rockin' "concert", but rather for a sit-down show, and not to the closer, therefore your argument doesn't hold up.

inittowinit said...

My argument certainly DOES hold up - you said, "those folks (referring to Carrie's fans) are leaving eating out of KU's hands and will most certainly be back for more from him." My argument was simply that you are wrong. They won't come back for more if they didn't stick around in the first place. You also say somehow you doubt it was very many leaving - obviously you have not been to this leg of the tour. And if you think it's just skeptics' reviews - take a wander over to Monkeyville. Even his own Customs Agent at a recent show complained about this. She said that there were many who left at her show as well. There are MANY comments about it over there - coming from none other than the bunnies, so I guess this meand YOUR argument doesn't hold up.

banbotox said...

kusnob said...And ETOY isn't given to Kenny Chesney because he's so great. It's because he brings along such great opening acts & ticket sales are through the roof. I've been to plenty of KC shows, but have never sat through his set once.

If you have never sat through his set once, how do you know he's not so great? Kenny may not be the best musician on the planet but he does ENTERTAIN his audiences-maybe you should suffer through a set and see for yourself.

doublewide said...

i agree banbotox. kenny has a huge fanbase.....and he is a great entertainer. he might not be our cup of tea, but a great entertainer nonetheless and his fans are passionate about him.

getaholdofurself said...

kenny is no musician and his vocals don't reach out and grab me like keith's do, but there's no denying he puts on a great show. that boy tours his bum off year after year.

inittowinit said...

Personally, I see what KuSnob means. Kenny is a good entertainer and he's fun. But he does tap into the whole "beach/party/summer break" thing - just look at his tour names. I've seen him - he's good. But his award should go to him because he's smart about his tour, rather than his entertainment value. He purposefully has great openers and many of them - though ultimately it will be him to get the credit for the show. His tour is a huge party. By the time Kenny is on, most are so drunk they don't remember his set. The next day, they remember all the FUN they had and it's attributed to Kenny. I'm not saying he is or isn't deserving - just that I think he wins maybe for the wrong reasons.

notachance said...

KC's EOTY wins are bought and paid for with his ticket sales that come from having those huge stadium & arena tours each year with excellent support acts and the never ending party. If KC were out touring with one opening act and having to be the only real entertainer on the bill, somehow I think the EOTY would not be his.

The one year that Keith did win EOTY was on his own merits, not based on who opened for him or how much of a party atmosphere was created around the day. To me, this is what the award should be for.

I've been to 2 KC shows, and both times I found his show to be the let down after his opening acts. Cup of tea indeed.

notachance said...

I think the stars are mis-aligned - we AGREE on something!

White Trash said...

"Personally, I see what KuSnob means. Kenny is a good entertainer and he's fun. But he does tap into the whole "beach/party/summer break" thing - just look at his tour names. I've seen him - he's good. But his award should go to him because he's smart about his tour, rather than his entertainment value. He purposefully has great openers and many of them - though ultimately it will be him to get the credit for the show. His tour is a huge party. By the time Kenny is on, most are so drunk they don't remember his set. The next day, they remember all the FUN they had and it's attributed to Kenny. I'm not saying he is or isn't deserving - just that I think he wins maybe for the wrong reasons."

This is absolutely the truth! He hand picks his openers to draw a larger audience than he normally would by himself. I can't tell you how many times I've gone to past Kenny shows where Keith and/or Dierks opened and I couldn't stomach watching Kenny. I'd maybe make it through 1/2 hour and just had to leave...though each time I did I'd give my better tickets to a few diehard Kenny fans so they'd have a better seat at the spectacle. Seriously, if you've actually seen Kenny in concert as many of you said you have, you can't tell me he has any kind of talent besides a mediocre voice. He maybe strums a few chords on his guitar throughout a song, but usually he just straps it on and lets it hang there while he sings. (Not Pun intended!) lol

Still....he must have a darn good brain for business and knows how to captilize on other talents cause he's rakin' it in year after year!

And Maclen if that's all you can say is ZZZZZZZZ, I can only assume you can't debate this particular topic becauseyour responses are usually based straight from the rags.

realitycheck said...

KC's sets have nothign t do with musicianship. The supporting acts bring the music and he brings the party atmosphere. But a turtle in skin-tight jeans never did anything for me.

inittowinit said...

notachance said...
I think the stars are mis-aligned - we AGREE on something!
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The stars soemetimes fool us, don't they. But I think that happens only once in a blue moon LOL

wastedemotion said...

Do any of you actually know the criteria for ETOY?! I do:
"This award is presented to the individual, duo or group who showed the most overall success in the country music industry during the preceding calendar year. The factors to be considered in arriving at this award include,
but are not limited to, success at radio, sales of prerecorded music, success of music videos, live concert ticket sales, artistic merit, appearances on television, appearances in films, songwriting, writing and contributions to
the country music industry."
It isnt just about the best show, or the best "entertainer", it's about a lot of things, and since Keith won other people have beat him in all the other areas, I challange any of you to deny that.
Also there is a huge difference between Gary and Keith....while Gary may not be able to pack huge venues alone like a stadium or arena, every venue he does play he packs, and he is fine with that, he doesnt need to level of FAME Keith does. The difference Gary is happy just playing, Keith USED to be happy just playing. It might not be over for Keith right now, but it isnt far off, with a baby on the way and a wife who wont take time off for anyone, someone will have to be with that baby and from what I've seen from Keith he'll want to do that.

maclen said...

Well, once again wastedemotion it's simply about denial, with a huge case of wishfull thinking. Yeah, I am so very impressed with urbans tragectory, 3 mil cds sold in 2004, 1.3 mil sold in 2006, and down to half a mil sold in 2007-2008 for his Greatest Hits... which it turns out aren't so great. So I'm sure urban has a team load of countless agents, financial and publicity managers, pr hacks...seemingly kidmans... producers and advisors, wheel and dealers wise in the ways of business and deal making... all who have steered him and led him to this amazing productivity... to the negative. I fully expect to be very impressed by urban if his next cd, if there is another cd... can underperform the Love and pain cd... no wait, everyone hope and pray it can do GH numbers!

KUsnob said...

According to Billboard, album sales this week and this just goes to show that EVERYONE is effected by slow CD sales, not just your beloved Keith, UNLESS Nicole has effected ALL of country music.

The ever popular Rascal Flatts, 21 weeks, 1 million copies. For the Flatt boys, that's pretty low. Same for Chesney but his is 22 weeks.
Brad Paisley, 34 weeks and didn't he JUST win ETOY and aren't album sales considered in part of this vote? 500,000 albums sold in 34 weeks.
Gary Allan, less than 500,000 16 weeks. (which is a total bummer for him because it's a great album but explains why he's been around since the mid 90's and no one knows it)

And the kicker, since you guys LOVE throwing around the Greatest Hits as being such a huge loss.
George Strait. King George. The Man. 13 weeks, Greatest Hits, 500,000 copies.
Keith Urban, (and I'm charting this one) 12 weeks, 500,000 copies was 13th last week and is 11th this. Could be, that after a couple of those Carrie Underwood shows people are out there, BUYING that Greatest Hits album. I know it's hard to believe, but that's what the Greatest Hits album is for.

ShutUpAndSing said...

kusnob said..
but that's what the Greatest Hits album is for.
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That actually makes alot of sense. I know CD sales are down in all genres. There was a big write up in our local paper after the Grammys.

I think what is frustrating many is we think or know that he is better than what we have seen in the past couple of years. I've only been disappointed by a live performance once, and that was Atlanta 06. He did seem to be finding his passion and joy in preforming more and more as the Love Pain tour went on. But for some reason the songs aren't fully connecting with people and he's not getting the number 1's like he has done in the past. I wish Keith could even get half the spins Carrie or Taylor do.. We have 4 country stations and one day 3 of the 4 were playing Carrie's All American Girl at the same time..AHHHHH

I seem to what more for him *career wise" than he wants for himself. Other artist have families and still carry on with their careers and move forward. But maybe for now, that's not what Keith wants

notachance said...

"I wish Keith could even get half the spins Carrie or Taylor do.. We have 4 country stations and one day 3 of the 4 were playing Carrie's All American Girl at the same time..AHHHHH"

If Keith were cute, young, blonde & big boobed he might be able to compete at their level. Like it or not, that has played a role in their careers - and will continue too.

notachance said...

"So I'm sure urban has a team load of countless agents, financial and publicity managers, pr hacks...seemingly kidmans..."

There you go again maclen, having to bring it back around to NK when she has nothing to do with it. Keiths people are still the same as pre-NK. Agent is Darren somebody from CAA, PR is Paul, financial & mgmt is Borman, legal is Ansel - none of that has changed.

The only tie they have is that they share agencies in CAA, but then so do most of the entertainment industry.

And wastedemotion - thanks for the definition of EOTY. I've often wondered exactly what went into that award. Kenny knows exactly how to win that award, being a marketing major and all. He has a game plan in place every year with that being the trophy. No one ever said he was stupid.

Wonder when the others that are consistently nominated for that award will get with the program?

White Trash said...

"If Keith were cute, young, blonde & big boobed he might be able to compete at their level. Like it or not, that has played a role in their careers - and will continue too."

And if he won American Idol he have as big a draw as Carrie. She's still carrying a majority of those diehard AI fans, probably more so than country music fans.

As for Gary Allan...he's got major talent, no denying that, but I'm not sure it's a matter of being content playing smaller venues. The guy is still getting over his wife's suicide and if you've been to one of his shows lately, he pretty toasted by the end of it. I think he so consumed in his sorrows and grief, he's oblivious about making it big at this point.

wastedemotion said...

whitetrash-
You couldnt be more wrong about Gary. Gary has been playing honkey tonks with his dad since he was 13,he was offered a deal at 16 but his parents made him turn it down until he finished his education. He's been in Nashville since the early 90s and I came to love him as early as 96.
Gary has the potential to be as big as Keith, but he doesnt desire that, he is content playing the size venues he plays. As for the grief it will never go away but Gary has moved on best he can and has even been dating. Seeing as that I've seen Gary perform for the last 12 yers I can tell you, the drinking is nothing new and is not because of hi grief.
Not that I want to take away from the focus of this blog (keith and nicole) but I think it's important to note there are tons of talented musicians out there, many of which can play and sing equal to or better than Keith, but they are so happy to just be able to play a local bar for a few people, they dont desire to make the sacrafices or changes required to become a fame whore.

maclen said...

Its very indicative that urban's most ill serving and terminally destructive adviser is now such a hasbeen in her industry, that she could so easily be out done and overshadowed by the likes of that train wreck lindsey lohan and her recent rip off spread of Marilyn Monroe. It seems to be popping up every, getting enormous ink and press, while kidman's pretty laughable, and barely noticed MM cover piece a month ago barely managed a couple blurbs here and there. Which i think proves the old adage of "Birds of a feather flock together." And also doesnt bode well of some commenters here of urban's possible household duty as kidman returns to her career of movie failures and pointless and useless PR spin. But someone needs to put the bacon on the table, no matter what, and my bacon is on kidman.

isitoveryet said...

So has the milk started coming into Keith's breast yet? Looks like his new role will be Mr. Mom while his hasbeen wife films another flop!

maclen said...

isitoveryet said...
"So has the milk started coming into Keith's breast yet....?"

Now that is hilarious... well, kidman got implants, why not urban? Although I sort of suspected that the whole "wanting a goat" was just a desire for free goats milk...although seeing that she hasnt settled in the tennessee ranch yet, that is still just a pipe dream... or more likely, a pr talking point. I'm also keeping an eye out on when she actually tours with urban, you know beyond the single concert appearance? Life is so transcendental when its simply lived out in magazine or tv interviews... but never actually realized. When it's noticed by some who deal in the reality of words said, it doesnt sound too impressive.

White Trash said...

I have to disagree with you about Gary Allan. I do know he's been around a very long time, but he doesn't have what it takes to be on top, not that he even cares to at this point. Not sure which concert you seen of him recently, but I can tell you it's sad watching him up there.

And I have to give it to maclen this time. I don't think she used Ms. Nicole at all in her most recent post. "Terminal Destructive Advisor" and "Kidman", but no Nicole! LOL

As for comparing her to Lindsay Lohan, please... her PR people are better than that! I in particular don't like many of her movies or her one-dimensional acting ability, but comparing her to a adolescent crackhead is a joke. You keep suggesting that Nicole's magazine covers have gathered no interest when in fact you don't really know how many copies of her recent covers have sold, do you?

I've said this in previous posts in the past, but I'll say it again. Kidman's aggressive attempt to stay on top is really no different than so many other actresses, past and present. They manipulate and use the media, along with stepping on many toes on their way to the top - it happens all the time. Not saying it's ethically moral, but it happens. Maybe she thinks she can use her influence to get Keith to the top with her, so what! If he's enjoying it - who are we to complain.
You don't like, don't follow him anymore and get over it.

White Trash said...

"kidman got implants," And you know this as fact? I think you better guess again! Botox sure, nosejob - definintely, heck maybe she even had cheek implants but the only increase in her cup size is due to her current pregnancy.

notachance said...

So now we're comparing NK to LL's MM (enough initial's for everyone??) photo shoot? Paleeze....

Not that I am an NK defender, but the NK pic's were not an exact reshoot, down to the exact makeup, that LL's was. No comparison whatsoever - apples & oranges. Why even bring that into the mix?

And for the record - I didn't care for either.

Sonora_Melody said...

The Harper's Bazaar issue with Nicole on the cover is an Australian edition. It's not available in the US yet.

So what if Lindsay Lohan news is popping up everywhere? She and her cokehead buddies feature in headlines regularly.

lol ... if Nicole does pop up in news, you loonies attribute that to Wendy Day. If she does not pop up in the news, you have something to say as well? Make up your mind!

Movie failures, Maclen??? "The Golden Compass" has grossed over $330 Million worldwide already. "Happy Feet" has grossed over $384 Million worldwide. Even when she's taking time off for her pregnancy, she continues to get film offers. She's currently the #1 choice of director Doug Liman to star in his Valerie Plame film. Recognize the director's name? He's behind the Bourne Identity films.

realitycheck said...

maclen are you blind? Lindsay's photo shoot is getting nothing but a negative reaction. She is either dumb as a rock or someone should have told her doing a nude photo shoot is not going to get your career back on track. Nicole's photo shoot isnt getting huge press because its only a photo shoot of an established actress who is doing another spread in a magazine. No big whoop. The only reason Lindsay did this was to garner attention. And she's getting it. Its just the wrong kind.

Sonora_Melody said...

To those who continually harp on NK not joining him on the tour, why should you care?

Is it because weeks ago you gals were SO SURE that she was going to be on tour with him to keep an eye on the pretty blond Carrie? You were also SO SURE that there will be KU-CU romantic tabloid gossips.

Well... sorry to disappoint you!

You gals/guys are simply pathetic with the stories and lies you spin.

maclen said...

Hey Urban Myths, I just wanted to be the first to congratulate you and be the first to note that with my comment here, we have just broken the previous comment record of 87! ... and that includes the early "annonymous" days... (sounds of fireworks, whistles...) dont forget, the post party will be held at kidmans magical tennessee ranch, and we'll be using the good china and silverware and urban will be serviing as bartender... (ohh that's cruel... but hilarious)

Urban Myths said...

Why, thanks, maclen! I'll be there with bells on!

isitoveryet said...

"To those who continually harp on NK not joining him on the tour, why should you care?

Is it because weeks ago you gals were SO SURE that she was going to be on tour with him to keep an eye on the pretty blond Carrie? You were also SO SURE that there will be KU-CU romantic tabloid gossips.

Well... sorry to disappoint you!

You gals/guys are simply pathetic with the stories and lies you spin."

We can harp on the dumb ass because she was the one that kept saying over and over again that she was going to tour with him this year. She was going to be there waiting for him when he got off the stage?

Well, where is dumb ass now?

inittowinit said...

White Trash said...
the only increase in her cup size is due to her current pregnancy.
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Really now? Typically, breasts don't grow several months before conception, but maybe alien gestations are different.

doublewide said...

Why, thanks, maclen! I'll be there with bells on!

me, too! wouldn't miss it!

ShutUpAndSing said...

I found this interesting.

This is a sad indication of where Keith's career is heading..

http://www.hitpredictor.com/country.artistchart.php

btw..as far as her boobs go..there is or was a picture on this site of her bending over and you can see the very noticable ridge of her implant. You can't tell me that's natural. Now there is nothing wrong with implants and plastic surgery..just don't lie to us like we are stupid.

KUsnob said...

Are my eyes deceiving me or have you all completely skipped over the fact that I posted FACTS about albums sales? Ah yes you did again. Again shifting blame back to Nicole. Well, we should really call the RIAA and advise them that all the decline in album sales is really due to the marriage of Nicole and Keith and not to illegal downloading.

And Gary Allan. Wastedemotion. I don't know what you know or think you know about him, but up until he fired Jake Kelley he was not a drinker, nor was he ever satisfied with being a bar artist. He's always strived to reach Nashville and become more than he was, which is why he moved from California to Nashville. To further his career, because MCA told him that if he wanted to get further, that he needed to be in Nashville. His wife's death was tramatic, no doubt. But I saw Gary many, many times in the early 90's from the very beginning, and that man could easily stand there and speak the phone book and it was nothing but sex. He does not posess that any longer. It's disappointing. It's a shame that such a tragedy had to come to him and further his career, but I find it to be a slap in the face of him and his career to receive a Horizon award after Tough All Over was released considering how long he's been around. I'm sure while he appreicated being noticed (finally), it wasn't something he should have gotten so far in his career. And his drinking is excessive and dangerous to a career that has really JUST started for him. If you excuse it, then you're not doing him any favors for him and you're not a real fan.

ShutUpAndSing said...

Yes I saw it and commented on it. This is based not just on record sales. And I don't believe I mentioned anything about Nicole's effect on Keith's career

"The HitPredictor Artist Chart is a gauge of artist popularity, above and beyond song charts. Artist scores are affected by every aspect of an artist's career. Marketing, airplay, retail, print media, touring, TV appearances, the Internet and rumor all have an impact on chart performance"

biteme said...

isitoveryet said..You know that for a fact? Are you on his or her management team? I could easily hear her say "Look at where I am today!" I think Keith is a little starstruck by his wife and doesn't feel like he measures up to her career, so any advice she gives him, he listens.

I can really see this. I also think he loves her more than she loves him.

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Tianca said...

Just a point of fact inserted here. Women's breasts usually get larger when they are breastfeeding their child, after the child is born, to feed the baby. It takes about three days to come in.

So if her breasts got larger before she even got pregnant, chances are she paid to have it done.

More two cents worth, ALL her press is designed to make her, and only her, look good. She needs it to support her out of control ego.

Tianca

CJ said...

Next she'll release a press release saying pregnancy is the reason her lips swell and her hair changes color more often than some women change their polish color. It's bad enough she lies to cover her own a$$ but she'll drag any and everyone into her lies if it helps her. Poor baby Urban.