Wednesday, February 13, 2008

Wow! Thanks for your comments!

Just the volume and the sincerity humbles us here at Umyths.

But let’s clear some things up.

Both Love, Fame, Rehab and the Crazy Rotten Songs and Greatest Hits are considered commercial failures. Keith Urban did not sell out the majority of his shows during his 2007 tour. Chris McHugh has played on every Keith Urban CD. He joined the traveling band in 2005 after Keith let his previous band go. Why? Until Keith Urban answers that honestly, we won't know. McHugh was promoted to Music Director for the 2007 tour. Gary Borman is Keith Urban's manager but he is not Nicole Kidman's, they share international managers however. That means the same company manages them, and they manage Tom Cruise and Faith and Tim and hundreds of other acts.

While Keith was off getting in another photo op with Kidman, he could have been doing press for his big show tonight in New York City. Did anyone hear Keith's Valentine message on .nut? If you heard last year’s did it sound familiar? It should, it’s the same one. Wouldn't New York City be the perfect place for Kidman to show at a concert? Keith could serenade her... She sure is getting big too.

Finally, we don't like hearing about Keith's personal life at all. Most of us loved the music, loved to watch him play. Well, since all we get these days is his personal life and since Kidman and Keith want all of us to know about them, well what else can we talk about? It quit being about the music a very long time ago.

87 comments:

maclen said...

You know, if you go back and read through all 45 comments of the previous blog, there does seem to be consensus forming, and that is that in fact urban is and has fallen off track. And the only disagreements are what is the reason for it. Most believe that it is kidman's influence that is responsible for his lack of creativity, originality or dedication to what got him to a high level of success. Some others believe it is a change in his band's personel...or it's a behind the scenes flack, hack ... or tawdry fling in the sack....who is leading him astray. But as someone who has no stake in how it ends up, it is something you should be concerned about if you are into his music or his live shows. If he doesnt begin to produce, his music label could just as easily drop him, and the reason for the tours would be gone. Yeah, maybe he could find another label, or maybe not...maybe he wont be that hungry...or enthusiastic... or allowed.

don't believe the lies said...

It quit being about the music a very long time ago.

This could not be more true! It's actually kinda sad. Such a great amount of talent wasted and not put to good use. It's almost like it's being taken for granted.

MatonGuitar said...

Many suspect the real reason McHugh is still around. For those who still give a tinker's damn about Keith, McHugh's persistent presence is worrisome.

Keith creates a confusing and conflicted conundrum. You can hate, loathe and despise the path he's chosen to take and yet still find yourself having fleeting moments where you remember the joy his music brought and the icyness of your heart thaws just a bit.

For the fans once affected and moved by Keith's music the loss of his muse and magic is painful. What's behind the loss is hateful and shameful.

Most say Keith was never the man we believed him to be; the man we wanted him to be. It's softer on the heart to believe he was weak and led astray than it is to think his true soul finally surfaced.

I think this is why so many "old" fans stay to watch the "train wreck." Somewhere in the deep recesses of our hearts we hope that the gifted musician who touched our lives with his music will be restored.

Unfortunately I believe each day that passes imbeds him deeper in his shallow world of purse holding and private jet flying and further away from the music he was once capable of making.

notachance said...

UM said: "Chris McHugh has played on every Keith Urban CD. He joined the traveling band in 2005 after Keith let his previous band go. Why? Until Keith Urban answers that honestly, we won't know. McHugh was promoted to Music Director for the 2007 tour. "

Yes, McHuge played on every record of Keith's - not to mention on every record that came out of Nashville it seems. Seems he never left the studio.....wonder when he had time for all those kids?

McHuge is the one that convinced Keith to start anew and take him on the road. Why you ask? Because McHuge wanted out of his marriage and in with Ms. Betsy and that was the best way to make that happen. Yes, behind the scenes is right....

As for being promoted to music director? If I'm not mistaken that was done long before 2007 - like when Mark Hill left. Mark Hill was music director (was the only way he would come on board actually) when the new band was formed and word is McHuge wrestled that away from him in '05 - hence his departure. And that is a money thing btw. If you're on the road, you're giving up that very lucrative session money so to be music director (which is really more like being a den mother - making sure the band is on time, etc., nothing musically at all) is sorely needed extra cash.


As for Capitol dropping him? He's still their biggest thing and they know it. Mike Dugan won't let Keith go. I think Keith would walk away from them first before they would ever drop him.

So, for now, I'll give Keith his time away and let him LIVE A LIFE that he so desperately wanted all along. He spoke so often of wanting this and never knowing how to have it - well, now it appears he does know how to have one and I am happy for him. To all you disgruntled Urban Mythers that cannot accept him now & his choices, I feel sorry for you. It's not your choice, it never was - stop lamenting the fact that he married someone you didn't choose for him, the fact that he didn't do the record you demanded from him (not that any of you could write or produce anything better than what he has done) and the fact that you don't control him. It was never about that with him & you, except you never got that message. He will give what he is capable of at that point in time, sometimes it will be good, great or just plain bad - but if you really are a fan then you can overlook it and hope for the best next time out of the gate (seriously, if this were a horserace you would've sent Keith to freakin' glue factory already with the way you have written him off).

isitoveryet said...

I think Mr. Kidman's demons that lead him to drug abuse was that he had to live with the figment of imagination that Capital created of him. Obviously, he was going nowhere with the real image of Keith Urban, so they gave him a full body and mind makeover, and things turned around for Urban. He coudn't deal with living the lies of being a barefoot poet while trying to screw anything with two legs in a Nashville bar whether he was in a commited relationship at the time or not. He wasn't everything Capital was presenting. We are now seeing the true Keith Urban, who can easily be turned into Kom Kidman. When Capital's Keith Urban described the woman he would spend the rest of his life with, it was NOT Nicole Kidman. The real Keith Urban is a perfect match for the self-centered Kidman. People who have hung out with Urban before and after Kidman have said that he is two completely different people. Beefore he was very talkative and funny. Now he is very quiet and no longer has the witty sense of humor. Was he stoned all the time back then to get through his life that was all lies?

notachance said...

"I think Mr. Kidman's demons that lead him to drug abuse was that he had to live with the figment of imagination that Capital created of him. "

Did you just step into the picture when Nicole did? Keith has had an on-going drug problem for YEARS, long before he was a *star* and there was an "image" to manage. He never truly delt with the problem, thought he was in control of himself when in reality he wasn't.

"He coudn't deal with living the lies of being a barefoot poet while trying to screw anything with two legs in a Nashville bar whether he was in a commited relationship at the time or not. "

I'd say the screwing of everything in sight was part of his addiction problem. Classic symptom if you ask me. No self esteem so he sought it in getting laid. It's a vicious circle that addiction and the things you do.

You are right though - he didn't know who he was, that is until he did the 3 month stint in rehab. I'd say this is probably the first time in his adult life that Keith is really Keith.

isitoveryet said...

notachance - trust me, I have been a fan for a long time - well before whatshername came into the picture. He hit rock bottom when he was realizing his music wasn't going to go anywhere in Nashville.

Tara said...

Wow so some of you are trying to say that Keith Urban spent the last how many years so stoned, so unaware that he let life happen for him? He let Capitol create the barefoot poet image? He did Playgirl and painted his toenails and wore outlandish clothes to awards shows because he was baked off his ass. So Mom was part of that then- since she was there- right? That all of Nashville was plotting just to make money off of him and enabled him to be stoned? Sorry- Keith Urban is as responsible for who he was as who he is now. He may be sober but he is still building an image and playing a game he just has a bigger backer this time and it seems so much more of an act. I don't think the man will ever find ballance.

notachance said...

"I don't think the man will ever find ballance."

tara - I know you meant to say "balance", but I can at least admit to finding this slip quite funny in light of your stance.

getaholdofurself said...

i can't figure out why nicole, the label, mchugh, borman, or anyone but keith is to blame. if you don't enjoy the music, don't buy it or attend concerts. isn't it a bit hypocritical to denounce this man day in and day out as you're purchasing concert tickets, UM, especially if "it quit being about the music a very long time ago"???

KUsnob said...

So Tara -
Are you saying that Keith Urban is the exception to the rule? That this isn't how the business is run? That other artists, musicians, actors, ect don't lead this lifestyle and their managers, business partners, record executives, friends, co-workers, assistants don't turn a blind eye to the real issues at hand?
So you're saying that in all reality that all other drug users in Nashville (and I refuse to use Hollywood as an example in this), alcoholics, and everyone else doesn't faciliate their habits. You disagree with that and you feel that Capitol was completely unaware of Keith's drug problem. You feel like Keith's mom who spent nearly 2 years on the road with him, was unaware. Sure she was there to "babysit" him but do you think she stopped him from EVERYTHING he did?
You think that the previous band in which he fired was the cause of the drug use and once they were fired then such habits would stop. And since that couldn't have been the case, seeing how more than 3 years later he landed his ass right in Betty Ford, it couldn't have been ALL them now could it?

You girls have your ways about you in blaming Nicole for being fame hungry, starved, and bringing out the worst in Keith Urban. But none of you have even once thought about looking at the man directly. And I can bet that none of you were there on those nights when he was playing at the bar so stoned off his ass, that you can't see the blue in his eyes because his eyes are so dilated.

Wake up ladies, the path he chose he chose himself.

doublewide said...

i, for one, am NOT purchasing concert tickets nor anything else that goes into his pockets....so stop lumping us all into the same category...

and matonguitar, you are so right, i'm afraid

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doublewide said...

You girls have your ways about you in blaming Nicole for being fame hungry, starved, and bringing out the worst in Keith Urban. But none of you have even once thought about looking at the man directly. And I can bet that none of you were there on those nights when he was playing at the bar so stoned off his ass, that you can't see the blue in his eyes because his eyes are so dilated.

you are so wrong.....you have no idea. if this is the sober keith, then great! i want the man sober. if some of his old personality has to be sacrificed for him to remain so, then great!

maybe he doesn't want to tend to, or nurture his career right now. maybe he is content to get his adoration fix and play puppet boy to his employer wife.

but, when NK says it's over where will he be? will he be happy to have no career? will there be enough of one left to pick up where he left off?

don't accuse us all of "not looking at the man"....you're condescending, and contrary to what you believe, you don't know it all

notachance said...

To use the words of so many on this blog -

kusnob - nail...head. You have pegged it totally.

And doublewide - you just couldn't resist bringing it right back to Nicole. That's exactly the point kusnob was making - IT'S NOT ABOUT HER, it's about him and yet you continue to think that without Nicole he will not know who he is or what to do. I think Keith knows exactly who he is now and that is what you (meaning UM'ers) can't deal with. He has a life that he is enjoying - for himself. Not you, me or anyone else on this planet, but finally for himself.

Who cares if he was still in OZ on the 12th, which was the 11th here? He obviously has a schedule that he is adhering to, that none of us are privy to. Do you follow any other artists? Do you know how other artists conduct their business? I'm betting his life isn't so much different than theirs when it comes to things like this. You have put him under such a microscope that he can't possibly win in your eyes no matter what he does. If he showed up on the 10th, attended the Grammy's, but then was spotted buying a Valentine's present for his wife you'd fu*kin' blast him for that. Face facts, he is married and will have her as part of his life. It will be interwoven in everything he does and until you learn to accept that you will be unable to move on and be free of your own, self-imposed monkey on your back. God that thing must be heavy.

doublewide said...

And doublewide - you just couldn't resist bringing it right back to Nicole. That's exactly the point kusnob was making - IT'S NOT ABOUT HER, it's about him and yet you continue to think that without Nicole he will not know who he is or what to do. I think Keith knows exactly who he is now and that is what you (meaning UM'ers) can't deal with. He has a life that he is enjoying - for himself. Not you, me or anyone else on this planet, but finally for himself

well, i hope you're right notachance....i don't want to see him hurt, desperate, or lonely.....we shall see

and it's a little hard to talk about him without bring NK into the mix, dontcha think?

doublewide said...

showed up on the 10th, attended the Grammy's, but then was spotted buying a Valentine's present for his wife you'd fu*kin' blast him for that. Face facts, he is married and will have her as part of his life. It will be interwoven in everything he does and until you learn to accept that you will be unable to move on and be free of your own, self-imposed monkey on your back. God that thing must be heavy.


just noting that YOU just had to mention her, too

KUsnob said...

And for the record, if she does leave him like so many of you have predicted she will, it won't matter. Now that there's a child involved regardless they'll be in each others lives for the rest of their lives.

That's a lesson you learn when you have children.

banbotox said...

I agree completely maclen. Whatever the reason-he is off track and I don't believe he will ever be that hungry again.

White Trash said...

Just because Keith's fame, fortune and personal life is plastered all over the rags doesn't give anyone the right to pretend they know the man. You expect people who read your blog to believe the crap you spew! That in itself is pretty darn scary!!

getaholdofurself said...

doublewide said...
"i, for one, am NOT purchasing concert tickets nor anything else that goes into his pockets....so stop lumping us all into the same category..."

i'm not lumping you into the same category unless, of course, you're the blogger who said you have a concert ticket for sale, attended and reviewed said concert, and then said "it quit beng about the music a very long time ago," which i quoted, by the way, so i'm not sure where the confusion lies.

notachance said...

"just noting that YOU just had to mention her, too"

Ah, but the difference doublewide is that I do not lament his marriage. I do not call him her purseholder, etc. I do not demean his character in any of this. That was never my place. And I always called you guys on the carpet for it, but no one ever thought that point of view was valid.

I do not think it takes NK to validate Keith's existence - as it would appear that the UM'ers do, otherwise you wouldn't be pining away about his fragility when or even if she goes.

maclen said...

Yes banbotox, theres alot to say about how a negative vibe can effect the overall outlook of another person. If you go to Anna's NK forehead, you will see a pic of them at the Aussie Open...(its down on a older post).. that speaks a thousand words about the true state of this relationship. There walking down the stairs, hand in hand, and kidman is looking up... no doubt scoping out where the photographers are in the stadium...because she has a truly phony and ridiculous, and yes forced, smile on here face ...meanwhile urban is just looking straight ahead, with the dourest, most deflated and dire look on his face. The weight of having to parade around in an obvious show of forced jumping of rings no doubt would sap the dignity of even the most stable of people.

Tara said...

kusnob-

I think we are saying the same thing.Keith Urban was never a saint nor was he inactive in creating his image but the image he has today is his also own creation. The reality lies somewhere else.

and spell check is not my friend.

maclen said...

... also wanted to mention and recall, just as Urban Myths blogged how the two skipped the 2 previous Grammys... so what's up with the "wonder twins" prying themselves from their oh so "unseperatable" selves on the so called day of lovers, Valentines Day? The year before, urban flew off to do a small nightclub gig in Canada, while kidman stayed in LA. for VD... this year urban is gigging with underwood somewhere in the US, while kidman chills in Oz. There must be some kind of psychological reason this highly manufactured and grossly calculated pair would pass on this made for the falsely and publicly self promoted "romantics" day of presentation. THough it may be what I have been coming to the opinion of... and that is... that the only reason urban has upped his touring schedule is so he has some kind of excuse to get away from the upped self promoting kidman.. otherwise he'd he on fawn and valet and photo op duty to her 24/7.

Perspone said...

White Trash said...
Just because Keith's fame, fortune and personal life is plastered all over the rags doesn't give anyone the right to pretend they know the man. You expect people who read your blog to believe the crap you spew! That in itself is pretty darn scary!!
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I have never claimed to know the man merely stated opinions as to what I have observed. Others may have more information due to their occupations or knowledge of the music industry. You don't know these people, so I am not going to discount what they say, just because you don't particularly want to hear it.

realitycheck said...

I think this blog needs to be renamed "The Blame Game: Nicole Kidman Edition". Many former fans would have everyone believe global warming was her fault if they could get away with it!

doublewide said...

i'm not lumping you into the same category unless, of course, you're the blogger who said you have a concert ticket for sale, attended and reviewed said concert, and then said "it quit beng about the music a very long time ago," which i quoted, by the way, so i'm not sure where the confusion lies

fine, my mistake.....i am not the blogger

realitycheck said...

And UMyths if there was a consensus here everyone would agree. But we dont.

notachance said...

maclen - just because they are not physically together on this manufactured lovers day, doesn't mean it hasn't been celebrated privately.

Not all lovers, couples, whatevers can be together on 2/14. I'm not with my hub - he's away on business this week.

CJ said...

"I think this blog needs to be renamed "The Blame Game: Nicole Kidman Edition". Many former fans would have everyone believe global warming was her fault if they could get away with it!"

Well, while Keith flies commercially between the US and Oz Nic has only used the private jet - exclusively I believe - since her Tommy days. That does contribute a great deal to global warming. Maybe that's why Keith is trying to counter balance her effect by using bio-diesel and selling "green merchandise". ;)

banbotox said...

Maybe, just maybe we would lay off of kidman if you all would just admit she is flawed and is part of the problem. Not one skeptic would blame her entirely for where we feel Keith is right now but you all insist that she is blameless and from what we've all witnessed-clearly she is not. However not one of you will admit she is less than perfect and if you are going to continue posting here with that mindset-no one will take her off the target.

CJ said...

Keith gave away his second guitar in NY Wed. A musician giving away his instruments. I guess this means the end of his career is quickly approaching.

maclen said...

CJ said...
" Keith gave away his second guitar in NY Wed. A musician giving away his instruments. I guess this means the end of his career is quickly approaching."

Ha! that doenst include the guitar put up for auction he autographed and surprisingly, or maybe not, also by kidman...
So is this year's tour actually a goodbye tour? What's the buzz on any new material? Any word on any recording schedule? Is it really the end of the road for this "Urban Cowboy?"

isitoveryet said...

I agree with you maclen, I believe this is a good-bye tour, and he will be retiring to Oz to be her lapdog while she continues her career!

banbotox said...

maclen said...Is it really the end of the road for this "Urban Cowboy?"

Well someone has to stay home and take care of the baby. Doesn't look like kidman will be since now she has signed up for a n o t h e r movie.

CJ said...

There were 2 guitars auctioned - one with out (in Oct) and one with Kidman's signature. So we're up to 4 - that we know about so far.

I see Keith more likely to follow Kidman around in her career and raise the baby than I see her coming to the states and bringing the baby on the tour bus.

maclen said...

Hey! Isitoveryet and banbotox both have honorary credentials as my self titled and official "Urban Mythbusters" status...congrats. (Ill show you the secret handshake later!)

Urban Myths said...
"Actually, he's given a guitar away at each show so far this tour. Last night made the fourth. Apparently they are not "his" guitars, but a new gimmick.
"Maclen, he has nothing scheduled beyond the stadium shows with Chesney this summer. He also has no new music to promote, so why tour?"

(actually, this is the last comment from the previous blog... just assuming it belongs here, UM?)

Anyways... I also find it kind of pathetic really, that urban is still touring with the Love, Pain banner... a cd released 16 months ago... only sold 1.3 mill. copies...and has dropped off the charts. And in comparison, underwood and chesny both have a fresh cd and both currently in the top 10 on the county charts... oops... underwoods previous cd, out for 117 weeks, just jumped in the top 10 again at #8... you see urban, thats how you get cd movement on the charts... freshness and originality.

KUsnob said...

I will only say this. I don't care what you say about numbers. I don't care what you say about Nicole, his career, her dragging him to the ground, him throwing it all away, whatever. But for the love of god. PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE. For all that is holy. Do NOT compare Underwood or Chesney to Urban. They do not write, play an instrument and they have no talent. There is NO way that you can compare them to Urban. It's just not possible.

isitoveryet said...

Gee, the skeptics called it again. Skank will be presenting at the Oscars. I'm so glad that this marriage is all about her, aren't you?

banbotox said...

maclen said...Hey! Isitoveryet and banbotox both have honorary credentials as my self titled and official "Urban Mythbusters" status...congrats. (Ill show you the secret handshake later!)


WOOHOO maclen! I am so honored to be receiving this credential. Can't wait for the post award party!

White Trash said...

"isitoveryet said...
Gee, the skeptics called it again. Skank will be presenting at the Oscars. I'm so glad that this marriage is all about her, aren't you?"

Why does this bother you so much? She's presented at the Oscars the last 4-5 years and she'll be in the states at that time touring with your favorite man. If you think she should stop being Nicole Kidman the actress for the sake of her husband's career well, that's just plain idiotic.

isitoveryet said...

white trash - if you seriously think she is going to be touring with Keith after the Oscars, you have another thing coming. If that was the case, why did he have to go back there last week and miss the Grammys? Why didn't she come over here and attend the Grammys with him? Don't use the photo shoot as an excuse - she is Nicole F'ing Kidman - don't you know - people schedule their time around her. Look how long the producers held off filming The Reader because of her. She could have then spent time with her kids in LA, and flew down to Nashville and spent some time at "home" there. Oh, that's right - Kidman doesn't live in Nashville. Had she done that, she could then have been on tour with Keith until the Oscars, but no let's torture Keith with another round-trip trans-Pacific flight again!

Urban Myths said...

that's just plain idiotic.

White Trash, why do you insist on bashing the posters on this blog? Why do you continue to read and post here if you disdain it so much? Please refrain from bashing. Stick to the facts, as the skeptics do.

The problem we have with her presenting at the Oscars (if she does travel for it) is that a) she was well enough to fly to Melbourne to be photographed at a tennis match for 20 minutes; b) she did not attend the Grammy's with Keith, for which he was both nominated and won an award; c) she did not attend the UNICEF film festival (a charitable cause no less) that she was named chairman of, because she's expecting a baby, tee hee. Yet she will fly to LA to "present" an award.

KUsnob said...

Hurry and post the Oscar blog..let's move on!!

isitoveryet said...

What's the rush kusnob? Why do you want to read it so bad? You will just defend her and bash the skeptics!

doublewide said...

I will only say this. I don't care what you say about numbers. I don't care what you say about Nicole, his career, her dragging him to the ground, him throwing it all away, whatever. But for the love of god. PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE. For all that is holy. Do NOT compare Underwood or Chesney to Urban. They do not write, play an instrument and they have no talent. There is NO way that you can compare them to Urban. It's just not possible.

if i read it correctly the poster only compared keith to chesney and underwood, concerning having fresh, new music out there. not their ability to write, play or sing. underwood did co-write so small. and kenny has written plenty of songs along the way. i think one of his songs is now a huge hit for RF....the poster was merely pointing out that keith continues to tour with the same old lack luster LPATWCT, and his past hits, with nothing new. i think you missed the point of the post.

getaholdofurself said...

weren't alive in '05 and still alive in '06 same album tours? i don't think this has anything to do with fresh music, but rather this particular album.

KUsnob said...

If Kenny Chesney says let's call this song "Shiftwork" and gets writing credit that does not make him a writer. And for the record, carrying out a guitar with a blue star on it during Big Star but not plugging it in, does not make him a musician.
Carrie Underwood, manufactured on television will never be more than that. I don't care if she writes an entire album herself. She will never be more.
Her new album is nothing more than Arista collecting on the AI machine while the getting is good and it's obvious by the choice of song at the Grammys.

My point is that it's easy for Carrie & Kenny to have new music out every 6 months because they are not writers, musicians or artists. They are over paid karoke singers. Who have OTHER writers, musicians and people choose their songs to put on a album. What does Kenny Chesney know about "Dont Blink"? What does he know about kids growing up too fast?

So my point is, don't compare Keith to them in any, way, shape or form.

notachance said...

If you want to compare quantity of albums with Keith, Kenny & Carrie and touring...

First, I don't happen to agree with artists that release albums year after year - like Kenny does. He barely writes anything at all, sings other peoples stuff, uses a guitar as a prop and therefore is able to tour each year with a new album to support - not to mention uses great support acts that can draw in the huge audiences. If he went out each year with only one opener his tours wouldn't be "all that".

Second, Little Miss Underwear may sell massive amounts of albums and co-write (uses term loosely cause we all know what that really means) and song or two, doesn't play any instruments therefore doesn't write the music and right now may be a big draw for shows - but let's face it, on her own with a new artist for an opening act? She ain't gonna cut it in anything but in theater settings.

Now let's talk about Keith and his albums - every 2 yrs or so, he writes the words for the most part, he creates the music to go with those words, he tours not just in the US to support his album and always does multple legs in the states and only goes out with one opener. He makes sure he's the star of his show - not the opening act(s) - like Kenny. Although I will give you that this current tour with CU was an arranged marriage for monetary reasons - that said, from the reviews it's still pretty damn clear that even though CU has a great voice, it's still a KU concert - make no mistake about that.

Sorry for the digression from the topic at hand of Nicole bashing.

BTW - did it ever occur to any one of you that he chose to not attend the Grammy's with his wife (or even w/out her) because he didn't want to take away from the other nominees? That he wanted Brad & Dierks to have their time in the spotlight? He's very much aware of his persona now and what comes with it, he may have been doing the right thing for them ladies.

doublewide said...

So my point is, don't compare Keith to them in any, way, shape or form.

so my point is.......not EVERYBODY on the planet agrees with you....we'll compare keith to anybody we dang well please.....and i think you're preaching to the choir....why do you think the skeptics are so sick about all of this? because we know by far, that keith simply has no peer....

KUsnob said...

Well I think Keith has peers. Brad Paisley being one of them. Talented guitar player,songwriter, married to a actress,ect. Dierks Bentley, Jake Owen (is on his way)and he did write or co-write every song on his album. Vince Gill, (though not in the same genre)Toby Keith, Obviously we'll have to throw Garth back in the mix because he's sorta back. I mean it's not like Keith is the ONLY artist out there who writes, plays and is a big draw to the ladies.
I just don't think that he should be compared to "artists" who don't do the same things.

Let's just get back to bashing Nicole, because it's obvious that most of you ladies are unaware of the actual process of music. Or music in general. Because, if Keith isn't sitting in the 2nd row of the Grammys he's letting you down. But sure as shit if he was there with her and they panned down to show them you girls would have found some way to complain about how the camera only showed them from her side and how she paid the camera guys to show she was there supporting her guy and how it was all about her.

I'm still waiting on the Oscar thread. Because you guys know NOTHING about music.

Tara said...

Oh snob you so live up to your name...
two points here..
in all of his other tours between breaks Keith changed the show. Moved around songs new covers were added set changes etc in this tour there are no changes at all the only thing of note was Shirt came back and can't stop loving you was gone. Its the same damn thing even the giving away of the guitars..

My own thoughts about the Grammys
I don't think they went to them because Kidman isn't popular with that crowd, She was so out of place in 2006 and at the CMAs and even the Arias in Oz. But the Oscars the place where all the world can rub her faux belly! Because god knows we will see her in whatever she wears for the next year and everyone can say oh Nicole.. Can't do the festival because she is pregnant- her words I am expecting a baabee but she sure as hell will walk that red carpet and I just bet the sperm donor will be with her.

Perspone said...

Not only do we think Keith has no peer but we know that his last studio album and his performances on this last tour have not lived up to the talent we know is there. Frankly, Keith has been unbelievably lazy. I'm not a big Kenny Chesney fan and I deplore the way that Carrie Underwood is being shoved down my throat, but any decline in Keith's career has happened because either Keith is disinterested or Keith believes that he no longer has to continue to work. Instead he's put it into cruise control and it appears he is taking for granted his status in the music industry. That being said, Keith is not a lost cause, he just needs to figure out what he wants, either he's a mega star like George Strait or he can be a medium range player like Chris Cagle (no disrespect to Chris, I love his music)who opens for other big acts and plays the State Fair and Club circuit. The choice is his.

notachance said...

So - do you think all artists must be at the top of their game at all times? Or just Keith?

doublewide said...

Oh snob you so live up to your name...


geez, isn't that the truth....you sure have a high and mighty opinion of yourself and your MUSIC knowledge. you can't seem to offer an opinion without demeaning and bashing somebody else. we're all offering opinion here. we might even happen to agree on some things if you weren't so irritating, and didn't think so highly of yourself.

maclen said...

banbotox said...
maclen said...Hey! Isitoveryet and banbotox both have honorary credentials as my self titled and official "Urban Mythbusters" status...congrats. (Ill show you the secret handshake later!)

"WOOHOO maclen! I am so honored to be receiving this credential. Can't wait for the post award party!"

Well, banbotox, sorry to give you the bad news... I had to disgustingly cancel the post party when kidmans pr hack insisted on kidman attending. And when I told the hack that the party would be held at the Arctic pole, in a handmade igloo built by indiginous citizens... and the only way to get to the location was to take a 5 hour ride on a snow sled led by a team of 6 dogs...(last years Iditarod champs by the way, this is a classy shindig!) But when kidmans hack unflinchingly proclaimed that kidman would attend anyways... well I just threw up my hands and canceled...

doublewide said...

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

point well made!

banbotox said...

notachance said...He's very much aware of his persona now and what comes with it, he may have been doing the right thing for them ladies.

You know this how??
And for the record...how do you know everyone that posts on here is female?

There are many skeptics that are very familiar with the music industry kusnob...get over yourself.

Perspone said...

notachance said...
So - do you think all artists must be at the top of their game at all times? Or just Keith?
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That's why I haven't completely written Keith off, I don't think performers have to be at the top of their game all the time. I do think they need to respect the fact that if they book a show they need to be at the venue on time in order to do a proper sound check and be ready to go. I don't think it's fair to the people who pay to see him, that he is jet lagged for the first show of each 10 to 12 day span of shows. But I do think that Keith is getting to the point where he has to decide what he wants with regard to his career. If he doesn't want to be a mega star and can be content working at the lower level, then that's his choice. Maybe he's not feeling the larger venues, maybe he wants to go back to working smaller venues, if that is the case, but if he doesn't do something soon he may have no choice but to move back to the level of opening act and playing the club circuit.

notachance said...

"Both Love, Fame, Rehab and the Crazy Rotten Songs.... considered commercial failures"

You know, every time I sign on to this blog I see this, and I can't help but think that UM is somewhat the hypocrite for even typing the words - cause if I'm not mistaken everyone, yes everyone, had an advance copy of the damn cd because of the goof up by Canadian itunes. And everyone, yes everyone, was ecstatic about having it and gave glowing reviews (with exception on the clearly NK devoted songs). We all thought we were the shit having something we shouldn't have and listened to it over & over again. Funny how that is all forgotten.

perspone - even if Keith didn't want to work as hard as before, I doubt he would ever be reduced to "club level".

CJ said...

I don't think Keith's ego could handle going back to opening act. What artist is going to hire him with his current lazy, slacker reputation? For that matter, most musicians don't want to deal with his wife either. Just the possibility that she might come around is a deterrent. Add to that the strong possibility of vocal problems and probable baby drama and Keith is just too big of a liability for another artist to want to take on, even if he would draw large crowds. Club owners wouldn't put up with the slacker work ethic or diva behavior - from him or his wife.

Maybe they can open their own Kidmanwood amusement park in Oz. In addition to the Vanity House of Mirrors, Kidman Trivia Arcade Games, and Musical Instrument Shaped Rides they can have a movie theater playing Kidman disasters (I mean movies) 24/7 and a performance venue of some kind for Keith to play in when the mood strikes him.

KUsnob said...

Well, so far not one of you have had any offering of the music business or the reason that the album sales are down besides the fact that he's married and he's giving poor performances.

The guy's been doing that since 2004. He's famous for coming out strong but then falling short for the rest of the tour until the end. But then you all already know that, don't you.
I mean all of you remember the Tallahassee tour where he played with the lights on while the crew tore the stage apart and threw it to the crowd. But do any of you remember the reviews throughout the tour, how everyone complained that it looked like he was just going through the motions or my favorite "phoning it in". It's a stagnate show. And it's impossible to have a big show like that and not have the same set. You have 150people working for you, setting up lights, staging, cameras, sounds, the whole package. I don't hear any of you complaining that Carrie has the same set. Or that Gary did the same set, waved his arm the same way during the same song every show he did. Or started drinking whiskey at the same time every night. Nor do any of you mention the fact that Katrina Elam, told the same lame ass jokes every single night of the show and you knew that she was going to yodle.
Same with the lame, Keith and CRod floor/guitar play & now the guitar/run shirt song. He's always the same. I miss the SLY spin at the end. I miss the opening of the show with Who Wouldn't Wanna Be Me. And the jump the shark moment with the fan/Sunday song so girls could get the hair flippage.

Music is my life. And the music business is my life. But you girls have been nothing but insistant that SHE is the cause of all this failure and it's just not the case. The music is fine, actually as I said in a previous blog Be Here was one of the most disappointing albums he released. It should not have followed Golden Road and though it's what got most of you as fans, those of us who's been around since before Golden Road it was a disaster. So, your dedication album (Kasey Kasem) is actually really good, and I bet tons of you were all dancing along and totally excited those two nights in Atlanta when he sang them directly to you.

White Trash said...

KUSNOB said..."My point is that it's easy for "Carrie & Kenny to have new music out every 6 months because they are not writers, musicians or artists. They are over paid karoke singers. Who have OTHER writers, musicians and people choose their songs to put on a album. What does Kenny Chesney know about "Dont Blink"? What does he know about kids growing up too fast? "

While I have to disagree with your "assessment" of Carrie Underwood - you are dead on with Kenny. Carrie has a voice - a damn good one in my opinion, but they've turned her into a performing Barbie Doll. And in my opinion, Kenny neither has the voice or the talent, but he's capitalized on the whole "Island" personna with the young college crowd and they seem to love it and he's making millions on it.

I truly believe Keith's talents stem not only from his voice and his ability to play guitar, but to be able to take portions of his life write about it and make decent music with it for the most part - no matter what stage of life he's in. So what, if he doesn't want to spend every waking moment touring right now or working on new songs. It's okay with me. He's entitled to have a life and figure out what this marriage and family thing is all about. So what not every CD he debuts is likable to you or not. It doesn't have to be likeable by everyone. Yeah, I think some of the songs on "Be Here" and "LPATWCT" really sucked and left me feeling flat, but some of them moved me.

I get that you skeptics think his music isn't up to par - I don't have a problem with that. What I don't get is why you continually have to pick apart, analyze every detail of his personal life and come to the conclusion it's all Nicole's fault. My guess is that he'd react the same way with anyone he married that was also famous or maybe not even famous.

It's evident he appears happy and content at the moment and he's enjoying a life outside of music and outside of you fair-weathered and fanatical fans as well.

disgusted said...

Urban has just parted ways with his Aus promoters after 18 years.
I wonder what has changed in his life to warrant this?
oh yeah, he got married.

It's called Reality Folks said...

kusnob: First it's an alleged private investigator, and now it's the "music business if my life." Please. Who are you going to be tomorrow? Make up your mind. Stick with one occupation and you'll be more believable.

KUsnob said...

Yeah you'll have to show me where I said I was a private investigator. And for the record, I'm not claiming that I work heavily in the music business (ie Borman) just that I've done alot of studying of music business applications, why they release, how they release, how contracts work, writing contracts & so on. As well as road contracts, ect ect.

So before this heads on a personal attack of me and my opinons any further, I figure I should just clear this up now.

I do find it odd though that after my latest post of past tour discussions none of you have posted anything. So either I'm right, or none of you were there for those tours.

maclen said...

Well, 66 comments... and counting! Monkeyland and NKU must be bleeding more members than a medievil medical leech sucking practitioner... and the most grossly self agrandizing, braggadocious and humorlessly truculent are gracing us all with their presence here on our little corner of the web...eh, It's called Reality Folks? And as for urban dumping his OZ promoters, disgusted, why would he continue to be interested in his homeland territory? That is where kidman will spend most of this year hiding out... he would prefer to spend most of that time clear across the world, in the US. Subconcious necessity is one sure symptom of a withering spirit and mind so subtle, that not too many care to bother to notice it.

banbotox said...

kusnob said...I do find it odd though that after my latest post of past tour discussions none of you have posted anything. So either I'm right, or none of you were there for those tours.

I think it's more like none of us want to get into a meaningless debate with you. You continue to make sweeping generalizations that are not based in any facts...keeps the focus off of your queen right?
Oh and a few posts back you commented on waiting for the Oscar blog. Let's see...you will be an expert on the Oscars too-gee can't wait for that interesting read from you.

White Trash said...

Banboxtos said..."I think it's more like none of us want to get into a meaningless debate with you. You continue to make sweeping generalizations that are not based in any facts...keeps the focus off of your queen right?"

Well, doesn't the writer of this blog make "sweeping generalizations" in every post she makes? And none of them are based on fact, just frustration and animosity. Goes both ways baby...both ways. You skeptos say it's "reality", than back of those facts and stop spewing babble!

notachance said...

You know banbotox - all we hear is how "we" can't stick to facts or offer up anything of substance on this blog. When "we" do, y'all come back with statements like -

"I think it's more like none of us want to get into a meaningless debate with you"

Debate is what it's all about - or at least what I thought it was supposed to be about. If kusnob has done her research on the music business and knows some stuff and y'all question it - then question it. Don't turn tail & hop back to your safe haven of your private board. All that says is that you don't know shit and when someone else does you refrain from comment because you really don't want to engage in healthy dialogue about any of this because those blinders that you're wearing might just have to come off in order to see something other than the UM mantra.

notachance said...

And ooooh - I can't wait for the Oscar blog either! Will be sooooo much fun I'm sure. I don't care if she goes or not, I'm sure you'll trash her either way.

KUsnob said...

banbotox said... keeps the focus off of your queen right?
Oh and a few posts back you commented on waiting for the Oscar blog. Let's see...you will be an expert on the Oscars too-gee can't wait for that interesting read from you.
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Not in one post have I ever defended her in any way shape or form. But lay blame totally on him. I'm waiting for the Oscar blog, so that I can give my own personal "insight" into what it must be like in their house. Much like you all did on grammy week.

And none of you can have a "meaningless debate" with me, because I'm right.

doublewide said...

I do find it odd though that after my latest post of past tour discussions none of you have posted anything. So either I'm right, or none of you were there for those tours.

basically i haven't posted because i have a LIFE and i'm flat sick of you....

doublewide said...

And none of you can have a "meaningless debate" with me, because I'm right.

ha! we'll see whose right after all of this plays out.....then you guys will be no where to be found. snob, if you're married, i feel sorry for your spouse, and if you're not married, then i know why.

we've tried debating with you, but since you're always right, it makes it difficult...and to be perfectly honest, i might agree with you on some points, but nobody likes dealing with such a grandiose attitude.

isitoveryet said...

"And ooooh - I can't wait for the Oscar blog either! Will be sooooo much fun I'm sure. I don't care if she goes or not, I'm sure you'll trash her either way."

Trust me - she gives us a lot to work with when it comes to trashing her. She shites on herself plenty the way it is, she doesn't need our help in that department.

notachance said...

isitoveryet said "Trust me - she gives us a lot to work with when it comes to trashing her. "

See, you totally made my point. Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.

Blinders, baby, blinders. Took mine off a long time ago.

isitoveryet said...

Let's look at recent events, shall we notachance? What were the first things that came out of Skank's mouth when the announcement came out that she was pregnant?

Think now . . . think real hard.

She was excited to be pregnant so that she could finally have boobs, but she wasn't going to gain any weight. And let's not forget that this is SUCH a high risk pregnancy for her - Lawd knows we are CONSTANTLY reminded, but yet she has to get in those three hour workout sessions and play tennis.

Can't fly to Berlin for a UN event, but can fly to Melbourne for a 20 minute photo op.

She made herself look like a COMPLETE idiot. We didn't have to put much effort into trashing her - like I said - she shit all over herself with those comments!

maclen said...

isitoveryet said...
"Trust me - she gives us a lot to work with when it comes to trashing her. She shites on herself plenty the way it is, she doesn't need our help in that department."

That's very true isitoveryet...if its not the "shes completely natural" no plastic surgury or botox, (by the way, over at Anna's nk forehead she's got hilarious before and after pics that shows her forehead ..and eyebrows, actually beginning to sag!) ...or the stories way back in Oct explaining her obvious boob job on her "gaining weight for the movie The Reader... an apparent leak from team kidman... but now its "she's expecting...so now it's "she loves her new boobs....Job." And also, which I'm kind of disappointed in, by the way, how they were going to lay low in there fab new Tennessee ranch, because kidman loves the town folk, and they love her! But it never became clear if they had already bought a ranch, in which they could be nesting there already, or if they bought land and were building a ranch, because they both at various points said either one of the stories above, And as for the Oscars, the only thing I'll be interested in is if she is going to wear a wig with bangs to cover her self proclaimed "botox free" forehead...and also get a huge laugh at urban's expense if he's on valet duty.

banbotox said...

maclen said...Well, banbotox, sorry to give you the bad news... I had to disgustingly cancel the post party when kidmans pr hack insisted on kidman attending. And when I told the hack that the party would be held at the Arctic pole, in a handmade igloo built by indiginous citizens... and the only way to get to the location was to take a 5 hour ride on a snow sled led by a team of 6 dogs...(last years Iditarod champs by the way, this is a classy shindig!) But when kidmans hack unflinchingly proclaimed that kidman would attend anyways... well I just threw up my hands and canceled...


HAHAHAHAHA maclen. Thanks for taking such evasive measures-too bad it didn't work out. Maybe next time we can keep all the details secret and then "leak" them at the most appropriate time-after the event is over!!

isitoveryet said...

"See, you totally made my point. Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.

Blinders, baby, blinders. Took mine off a long time ago."

So what were your thoughts when your Queen said that she didn't really know her husband at all, but she was working on that?

Is it a good idea to bring a child into this world with a man you don't really know at all?

maclen said...

banbotox said...
"HAHAHAHAHA maclen. Thanks for taking such evasive measures-too bad it didn't work out. Maybe next time we can keep all the details secret and then "leak" them at the most appropriate time-after the event is over!!"

That is a good idea, banbotox... or better yet, we can just have it at that notorious magic Tennessee ranch, that may or may not exist... or is being built as we speak... because it is surely the case that kidman will never visit there again, let alone live in it!

Sonora_Melody said...

So the "know it all's" of this blog who seem to blame Nicole for everything got it all wrong yet again!

An Aussie newspaper reported that Keith and Nicole went to Queensland to visit his mum, who was ill. That's why he could not be at the Grammys.

notachance said...

btw isitoveryet - she is NOT my queen.

And sonora - where's the article on that?

White Trash said...

Oh, I get it...she's just so easy to pick on because she has money to spend on the upkeep of her appearance. Something a lot of us could only wish for.

Imahick said...

I read that article...it was not really an article but a few lines on a gossip site saying they'd gone to Queensland. But I have to say I don't believe it.

First of all, I truly hope his Mum is not ill.

Second of all, does anyone here actually believe that NK and Keith could fly to Queensland and have any kind of decent visit with his Mum without a bunch of media attention and pictures? Not a chance.

Third of all, IF Marienne is ill, why wasn't Keith with her instead of eating dust on NK's photo shoot? It's not like he was doing anything except drinking water and carrying her sweater. (although, he may well have had to carry her water, her umbrella and paint her toe nails...we have no idea what else he was expected to do). My point, however is that if Keith's mother was so ill, he cancelled his attendance at the Grammy's HE WOULD HAVE BEEN WITH HER.

If his Mum is ill, then he SHOULD have been with her instead of on NK's photo shoot. But then, would the queen allow him to attend to his mother. It is HIS family and she hasn't shown much consideration for them in the past.

JapHal said...

Oh for crying out loud.. LOL all this Bi-a-tching people..